(03-24-2023, 12:23 PM)Caldrac Wrote:

(03-24-2023, 12:13 PM)mikesez Wrote: A reasonable person must yield the point that taxation is not theft. 
That doesn't mean that all taxation is justified or good.
Taxation that is too high or that is spent on things the people don't want is tyranny and must be resisted.  But it's tyranny, not theft.

Taxation is theft. I'll die on that hill. You cannot escape it. You get no say in it. Taxes fluctuate. It's rare they stay even across the board. It is then used for God knows what and to who's benefit. 

The problem is, and it all circles back to Eric's original point and posting of this situation in France. The retirement age. Right now in our country, we're getting gouged by taxes, suffering through inflation and a stagnant economy. 

Meanwhile, they continue to raise our requirement age for Social Security. It's been put out there that we may not even see it. So, right now, a good portion of your taxes are being:

A. Used predominately in areas we have no say in, no knowledge of or benefit from.

B. Used to bail out crooked, corrupted systems that are ran by crooked, corrupted people. 

C. The coffers will be dry by the time you reach, if you're lucky, the new age requirement for retirement benefits. After they took it yearly from your paycheck when you could have been saving it. 

How in the [BLEEP] is this not theft? We're being robbed. By a bogus system. I already posted article after article on this matter in the main political thread. The Federal Reserve Act of 1916 passed by Woodrow Wilson combined by that other [BLEEP] crook, Nixon, when he [BLEEP] all over the Gold Standard, our future, our freedom, our financial security for most Americans, it's been completely hijacked. 

We have no real security here anymore. You can't pay your taxes? Cool. They'll seize your [BLEEP] property. They'll seize your assets. After they've been making it increasingly more difficult to play their [BLEEP] [BLEEP] game to begin with because the table is rigged, it's tilted, in their favor. As it's always been. 

That. Is. Theft. 

[BLEEP] your Webster definition, Jack. It's THEFT.