(04-24-2023, 04:51 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote:

(04-24-2023, 01:25 PM)RicoTx Wrote: ...because it's so easy to trade back.

If a QB is the best player on the board it will be.  There is always a team that needs a QB.  If you are the only team in the league with a QB at the top of the board you might want to look in the mirror and ask yourself why.

If QB is the best player on the board, but you know only one team is looking for a QB, why would that team have urgency to jump ahead of everyone else that doesn't want or need a QB? The end result is you get fleeced to move off the pick unless it's in demand.

So, sacrifice value just to say you moved off your best player on your board?

Yes, you do put value on guys that you know you won't be picking, but it's for this specific purpose - flesh out who is likely to target that player, where they typically will fit in a darft, and how valuable is it to you to either move off your pick in a trade or take someone else at that spot. It's a finesse game, not a digital sequence of ones and zeroes that say this is the top guy, so therefore take this one guy or trade off the pick. The Venn diagram is rarely a circle.

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(04-24-2023, 08:18 PM)Eric1 Wrote:

(04-24-2023, 10:22 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: That's when you trade back and get a nice haul.  Hopefully one of those QBs do fall to our pick

Ah yes of course, the classic "just trade back 4Head".

Anyways here's words out of Baalke's own mouth.

“You’re always balancing need and value, and when you say that, really, each year, the board is different. There are different strengths and weaknesses in every draft. Some years, the O-line, D-line are more prominent than maybe the edge guys or vice-versa, inside versus out. You’re still seeing the board based on value," Baalke said.

"Once you’ve got the board set on value, then you start looking at the needs. You don’t want to push players up the board value-wise just because you have a need at that postion. I’ve been doing this a while now, and most of the time, the value and need come together. Very few times have I looked at the board and said there’s just no value at the position of need we have. Sometimes it might be a card off, but it’s still close enough where you can address the need.”

"I’m just expecting that the board is going to fall a certain way ... years ofexperience, you tend to get a feel for how the board is going to fall. That doesn’t mean it’s going to fall; I’ve been sittng at 29 before and had nobody on the board we felt was valued at that level. That happens. We feel good about this group, this class, that there’s going to be enough depth in the draft, that there’s going to be a player at a need-position we have valued in that area that will be there when we pick.”

So as you can see, from his own words, even if there's a player that's graded slightly lower than another, but fits the need they'll still take him. It's almost like we've been telling you this for years... Crazy right?

@Obviously this is a sign that Baalke sucks@

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(04-24-2023, 08:25 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote:

(04-24-2023, 08:18 PM)Eric1 Wrote: Ah yes of course, the classic "just trade back 4Head".

Anyways here's words out of Baalke's own mouth.

“You’re always balancing need and value, and when you say that, really, each year, the board is different. There are different strengths and weaknesses in every draft. Some years, the O-line, D-line are more prominent than maybe the edge guys or vice-versa, inside versus out. You’re still seeing the board based on value," Baalke said.

"Once you’ve got the board set on value, then you start looking at the needs. You don’t want to push players up the board value-wise just because you have a need at that postion. I’ve been doing this a while now, and most of the time, the value and need come together. Very few times have I looked at the board and said there’s just no value at the position of need we have. Sometimes it might be a card off, but it’s still close enough where you can address the need.”

"I’m just expecting that the board is going to fall a certain way ... years ofexperience, you tend to get a feel for how the board is going to fall. That doesn’t mean it’s going to fall; I’ve been sittng at 29 before and had nobody on the board we felt was valued at that level. That happens. We feel good about this group, this class, that there’s going to be enough depth in the draft, that there’s going to be a player at a need-position we have valued in that area that will be there when we pick.”

So as you can see, from his own words, even if there's a player that's graded slightly lower than another, but fits the need they'll still take him. It's almost like we've been telling you this for years... Crazy right?

"You don’t want to push players up the board value-wise just because you have a need at that postion. "

....and the sentence that followed?

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