(05-23-2023, 10:47 AM)NYC4jags Wrote:

(05-23-2023, 10:23 AM)Lucky2Last Wrote: Some things aren't appropriate for kids, man. It's not our job to tiptoe around that idea. Should we get them watching pg-13 porn at 8 years old, just because the parents want it? What about letting 8-year-olds getting to second base with adults? It's just kissing, right? If those arguments seem absurd to you, it's because they are.

10 years ago, we wouldn't be having this conversation about drag shows. Any isolated incident of this would not be met with a fierce defense by most people, and those who would have defended it would be slapped with the label of sick or perverted. Yet, you slap on an "oppressed" label on dudes with autogynephilia and all of the sudden, people start defending this [BLEEP].

The only reason to justify this is to normalize drag acceptance, which could be done in literally any other venue... not that we need to normalize drag behavior. We can't even have that discussion. Our society is stupid.

Should have just led with the last sentence. Clearly, there are some really stupid parents out there or this conversation would not be happening. I don't sympathize with folks taking kids to drag shows. It's inane. 

I didn't tiptoe around anything.  

Yes, I am sure there are some innocuous versions of this stuff out there, but I still think it's ill-advised to involve children. 

I thought it was pretty clear that I'm on the side of parents making these common sense decisions about their children's welfare. There isn't some sudden and urgent need to try and legislate every little tributary of the vast river of child welfare.  
The law is nothing more than political posturing anyway.
 Do you actually believe it is going to positively alter the course of some kid who may have otherwise seen a chubby dude prance around in a bathing suit a few years before they could get their head around that? I don't. 

Young children these days are internet savvy at a very early age and will be exposed to all brands of hideousness. That's real life. 
It's up to parents to parent them. Not the governor or state legislature. 
We could spend the entire calendar of legislative sessions passing laws to "protect children" if we made a new law for every little common sense decision parents in our state crap the bed on. 

I only entered the convo to point out that this local venue's lawsuit was likely more symbolic than monetarily driven, but there's my ten cents since we're here.

So if that's the case why have age limits on other vices or rights? Kids get denied the right to drive, to purchase guns, cigarettes, beer, porn, entrance to bars and clubs, the right to vote...we've got a society full of prohibitions based on age. Why is this thing different when the dangers associated with it for children are so very clear? And why are these gigantic corporations so vested in the acceptance of this particular vice? I don't agree with the explanation above that it's about control...no CEO is sitting in his office thinking, "I can wait to make Main Street accept drag queens so I'm going to have Target advertise 'tuckable swimwear' to really stick it to them" (except maybe the media guys who get tv ratings from it). So why is drag suddenly this huge issue in our society when it's a rather insignificant minority and why have MCWW's taken up this mantle of obsession?

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