(05-29-2023, 10:52 AM)Lucky2Last Wrote: A significant portion? There were estimates that 120,000 people showed up to DC that day, and they only got a dozen cops? That's not really a significant number.

Aside from that, you guys still won't acknowledge that there were multiple, disingenuous agitators there that day. Ray Epps should be in jail. Period. There is no reason this guy is still unprosecuted unless he's protected. He's on video giving a command to two young men to remove the barriers. We know from multiple trials that the FBI was there undercover. We know there were some known ANTIFA affiliates present. We have, on video, some type of undercover personnel changing out of plain clothes and being welcomed into the building by other police, and they were claiming to be dressed as ANTIFA agents.

You ignore ALL of this. Why is it hard to admit that the government may have played a role in what happened that day?

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I'm talking about all of the recorded communications between the 3 different domestic terrorist groups that were on hand and had clear agendas once they were inside the building. Including kidnapping.  You're focusing on the wrong (or at least different)  thing in regard to that reference I made. 

Regarding the red: anything that I've seen that appears even remotely reliable on this front is inconsequential compared to the overwhelming mob of protestors turned insurrectionists and their actions. 
The immediate leap to invoke Antifa or some Soros backed plot every time someone(s) on the right are caught up in some hot water is incredibly tiresome. I can't believe how easily folks eat that narrative up. I do not accept that lame explanation. "Those angry conservatives were actually liberal terrorists dressed up as angry conservatives" has got to be getting old by now, no? 

It's also really wild how so many on the right have readily turned on the FBI because Trump told you to do so.
Wow. 
I truly don't understand the fealty. 
And the Bureau was being run by a Trump appointee, was it not?? 
FBI=Evil was not something I thought folks would eat up with such appetite. 

I also don't understand how any of the practical movements made by security that day (when faced with clearly overwhelming numbers that woild not allow them to man their posts with any effectiveness) get labeled as a conspiracy or a "welcoming." 

C'mon. You really think 4 capitol cops on security detail standing behind 2 little pieces of bike rack barricade are gonna stop hundreds of people as the ones out front jab at them with flagpoles and swing baseball bats? 
Of course there were positions that were conceded. Eventually all of them were - except for the speakers lobby detail where the shooting occurred.

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