(07-06-2023, 03:40 PM)The Real Marty Wrote:

(07-06-2023, 03:16 PM)Caldrac Wrote: More than likely. He had a moral obligation to do what he did. Whether anybody likes it or not, doesn't matter. He did what was right in his mind. Good for him. Not very many politicians can say that. At least not in the modern era. The idea that his actions in particular were the catalyst as to why Biden ultimately "won" though is laughable. 

Listen, Biden was getting in one way or another. The establishment made damn sure of that across the country. I still refuse to believe that Biden, Sleepy [BLEEP] Joe Biden, out of all the modern candidates that ran for president. Somehow ends up having the highest vote count of all time. There's no [BLEEP] way. 

We had our first black president run twice and win twice in Obummer. We had a few female candidates run. Including Hilary "The Hitman [bleep]" Clinton. Bushwhack royalty also ran and won post 9/11. I just don't see Biden having that kind of pull. He certainly won't have it going into 2024. That's for damn sure. There's nothing the establishment can do there to fix that nor prop that up. If he "wins" again? This country is going to [BLEEP] implode across BOTH parties having had enough of this nonsense since 2020.

It wasn't Biden that caused Biden to get that many votes.  It was Trump.  Biden got that many votes because he wasn't Trump.

That's speculative. I know in the history books it will say he won fair and square but deep down there has to be a severe case of buyer's remorse from the loyalists of the left. That was the best alternative? Really? 

There was just too much going on in 2019 and 2020 to say this election was squeaky clean. There's a reason there's always been a majority that refuses to vote. Because that majority doesn't believe in our systems, it doesn't believe that it's valid. There's no way a massive corporation disguised as a country is going to leave it's wealth and greed up to chance on it's citizens, it's working class, it's ticks, it's leeches.

There's always been healthy skepticism preached amongst the lowest of lows and the highest of highs in the public eye. Biden got that many votes, and Trump lost votes, and a lot of those "votes" were racking up or going missing in a wide, wide variety of ways between ballots being destroyed, mailed in, harvested, machines acting screwy, etc., etc. 

You cannot trust these politicians. Red tie. Blue tie. Green tie. They all get paid to act, speak and behave a certain way and they all get blatant favoritism as they go out of their way to pass laws. Career politicians are trash. Not a Trump supporter on my end. I just have a hard time buying into this system on my end, and yet, I do vote, I participate. 

Biden got a lot of help, illegally and legally, and Trump got [BLEEP], illegally and legally. I don't see it any other way than just that. The table is rigged. It's been rigged, in my opinion, since at least 1916. When the Federal Reserve was introduced.

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