(07-06-2023, 03:40 PM)The Real Marty Wrote:

(07-06-2023, 03:16 PM)Caldrac Wrote: More than likely. He had a moral obligation to do what he did. Whether anybody likes it or not, doesn't matter. He did what was right in his mind. Good for him. Not very many politicians can say that. At least not in the modern era. The idea that his actions in particular were the catalyst as to why Biden ultimately "won" though is laughable. 

Listen, Biden was getting in one way or another. The establishment made damn sure of that across the country. I still refuse to believe that Biden, Sleepy [BLEEP] Joe Biden, out of all the modern candidates that ran for president. Somehow ends up having the highest vote count of all time. There's no [BLEEP] way. 

We had our first black president run twice and win twice in Obummer. We had a few female candidates run. Including Hilary "The Hitman [bleep]" Clinton. Bushwhack royalty also ran and won post 9/11. I just don't see Biden having that kind of pull. He certainly won't have it going into 2024. That's for damn sure. There's nothing the establishment can do there to fix that nor prop that up. If he "wins" again? This country is going to [BLEEP] implode across BOTH parties having had enough of this nonsense since 2020.

It wasn't Biden that caused Biden to get that many votes.  It was Trump.  Biden got that many votes because he wasn't Trump.