(07-10-2023, 09:23 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote:

(07-10-2023, 10:40 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: Were Irish Americans being strung up in trees for being Irish in the mid-sixties? I may have missed that. 

The point I'm making is that the racial makeup and proportions of the country (and globe) are ever changing and we are becoming more and more homogenized.  
We are nearing a place when the benefits and opportunities being created for certain minorities won't make sense anymore. (I can't wait personally - just so white ppl will stop whining about it)
 Over the next 20 years we'll see that level off. I'd bet heavily on it. 

What comes hand in hand with that change - is that white Americans are no longer going to face the same golden-paved road to easy success in life because they will be on a more level playing field with minorities who previously had a tougher time getting there. Yeah, I know folks like to deny this dynamic EVER existed and white folks have always just pulled themselves up by their bootstraps, but that's a load of crap. Plenty of folks pulled themselves up as far as they could by those straps only to be denied access to opportunity. 

Thankfully - We are in a different time than the 60's, 70's, 80's and 90's. 
The youth of this nation are more diverse than ever and they largely aren't looking for a free lunch. 
They'll compete on a more level playing field than ever before and those who take advantage of their opportunities will succeed. 
Part of this new landscape is a bunch of butt-hurt white people who lament the loss of privilege. 
They'll just have to get over it. 

Ooh yeah - and to address your 2 wrongs quip:
Are you seriously trying to compare the whining of a modern white guy feeling discriminated against to the struggles of African Americans over the last century?  
That may be two "wrongs" but it's like comparing murder to shoplifting.

Lynchings had all but passed by the 60's. The practice was most common in the late 1800's and became less frequent. Were there people who were killed by racists during that time? almost certainly, but it's nothing like what we think of as the traditional lynching. I don't get why people resort to such hyperbole. 

Sure, white folks had an edge. However, economic success in this nation has predominantly been a plateau, not a mountain top or a "race," as some people like to say. There was never a time when all whites were millionaires or all whites crossed the finish line. There are just people who made it to the top before others, sat on it, and used their success to marginalize anyone who could threaten their power. They might be white, but they certainly don't look like me. This is the great lie that is believed by most people on the left. The great lie believed by most people on the right is that the government is out to oppress whites in favor of blacks. That's poppycock. The elites use the power of the government to oppress everyone for their gain. Whites are just feeling it differently than they have in the past. 

Until both groups start recognizing the actual problem, slightly more power will be given to the group that most benefits the elites. Unless they plan on uniting and fighting the problem together, why shouldn't whites push back against it? Why shouldn't minorities try to fight for the crumbs of the elites, too?

Show me the hyperbole in my statement.  There is none. I just asked a question based in factual context. 
I know the history and I know it continued into the 1960's. Frequency per decade was not the point. Far from it. 

Regarding the other paragraphs - I didn't espouse any of this "great lie" you're proclaiming. 
I merely pointed out why I find it comical for whites to whine about some horrible injustice being served them. 

Nothing wrong with anyone bucking a system that relegates them powerless against such social constructs as you suggest, I'm all for it,  but comparing the modern "plight" of middle class whites to other historical discrimination is a joke.

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