(07-11-2023, 10:39 AM)mikesez Wrote:

(07-11-2023, 10:11 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: I am claiming that the government is the servant of the people while you demand it be your master. It's like ol' Sam Adams knew you personally and he perfectly expresses how I feel about you.

“If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.”

Sam Adams said that in 1776.  Boston had been under martial law for like 6 years at that point.  He came to that conclusion reluctantly and soberly. 
Nowhere in the US is under martial law today.  You rush into this mindset out of sheer boredom and a misunderstanding of the nature of glory.

I've come to this conclusion today reluctantly and soberly after more than 100 years of encroaching and increasingly tyrannical government. You've accepted the soft chains of distraction slavery, so enjoy your scraps.

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(07-11-2023, 11:42 AM)NYC4jags Wrote:

(07-11-2023, 10:11 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: I am claiming that the government is the servant of the people while you demand it be your master. It's like ol' Sam Adams knew you personally and he perfectly expresses how I feel about you.

“If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.”

I'm not sure the words of a revolutionist in the very midst of an actual revolutionary war are equally applicable to free Americans living in the free America that revolution helped create.  

Sam Adams was not talking about what you're talking about. 
He was referring to to Britain and its loyalists.

If Sam Adams were alive today he'd feel as I do, that our Country traded freedom for a royalist administrative state from which we need to sever our bond. Franklin wasn't kidding when he said, "If you can keep it."

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