(07-28-2023, 11:42 AM)Mikey Wrote:

(07-28-2023, 10:45 AM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: I thought you just said no one was trying to give him that kinda money right now? Or am I misreading something. That's my point, you have to be a blind homer to think he's earned being the highest paid player in NFL history and while, sure giving him that contract today COULD save us a little bit of money it's still a gamble because unless you are a time traveler you have no idea whether or not he works out in the long run.

Let's be civil here, because the insults and jabs are pointless. 

All i'm saying is that I would not put the franchise future in jeopardy over a guy who has only been above average at the very best (based on his entire career thusfar) I am not discounting how well he played in the second half of the season last year infact I was the first person in the raiders/jax game day thread complimenting him on having his first real ELITE day. But heres the deal. I'd rather risk paying him slightly more after the season after he shows us what he's really made of after a second season in Pedersons offense acompanied with his hopefully fruitful relationship with Calvin Ridley, than throw the franchise financhials under the bus just to take a shot in the dark and hope and pray it works out. 

For the record, I do think he will turn out to be our guy at this point I am impressed with how he's played, but after watching countless teams throw money at QBs that had one good season or so get burned on the back end, I'll pass on that. 

I know it's all speculative because we can't technically extend him right now, but that wasn't the point.

That's part of the prediction - we CAN'T offer him a deal right now.
So, we have to wait until after this season anyway. Before that, more than likely Joey B is going to get his extension. Do you think he's gonna make more than Herbs? I sure as heck do. There's also talk that Pat Mahomes may be due for a reworking as all the young guns start inking deals richer than his, especially if he continues to dominate as he has. All those factors give us some darn good confidence that by the time we are working on a number both sides consider to be fair, it's probably going to be near that $300M value.

And yes, after two seasons most have us have already seen enough to say with confidence that the kid has earned his franchise-caliber contract, as we have little doubt that the trajectory will not continue upward. What have you seen that makes you think that he will regress, barring injury?

And unless he's trying to play some long game, he's going to want to set the market when he gets his deal, especially if he continues on the level he's already shown. Even if he doesn't want to, his agent absolutely will, as he probably will have other clients looking to cash in as a result of this new high bar. It's going to happen.

Joe Burrow: 82 tds 31 int
Justin Herbert: 94 tds 35 int
Trevor Lawrence: 37 tds 25 ints

Herbert 2021 stats: 38 td 15 ints

In what world do all 3 of these guys deserve the same contract? 2 of them have certainly earned it, and statistically speaking Trevor would need to throw for about 55 or so TDs with 10 or less ints to be similar to Herberts career in year 3.

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