(07-31-2023, 10:18 PM)Eric1 Wrote:

(07-31-2023, 09:33 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: That's great and all, but it's a gamble regardless. If (and im not saying he will) IF he turns out to just be an average QB, giving him that immense amount of money would hamper this franchise for years.

Remember when we all thought Nick foles getting 4yr/84m was insane? Herberts getting 4 years 262.5M. That's a big big investment and only a fool would throw that at someone who hasn't proven themselves yet.

As confident as I am in Lawrence, I was equally as confident in not wanting anything to do with Foles that off season. I knew he was trash and voiced it plenty of times way before and after the signing. I said it would be a terrible decision from the jump and it played out exactly as that.

And I don't know why you keep bringing up Foles and Bortles when talking about Lawrence. Neither of them could even come close to holding Lawrence's jock strap. It's plain as day. They only thing they have in common as far as QB play goes, is that they all played QB and they all were on the Jags. That's it. As far as skill, arm talent, ability etc etc etc goes, Lawrence is in another dimension.

Because i'm using Jaguar related situations to explain why jumping the gun on spending money based on short-term success is not a good idea.

Foles was terrible prior to becoming a jaguar, outside of a short run to the SB with Doug and crew.
Bortles was terrible prior to having a nice little stint at the end of the 2017 season acompanied by an insane defense.
Lawrence was terrible his entire rookie season, and was pretty bad the first half of the 2022 season before finally coming into his own during the Raiders game and so on. 


I'm with you, I doubt Lawrence will ever be as bad as Bortles or Foles.. but at the same time Foles/Bortles weren't in contention to get a contract that if things didn't work out, we'd be in cap hell for the next 4 years. 

Kyler Murray and the Cardinals are a prime example, he played OK football and got paid as soon as he could, he's currently making 46m/year (which is 8M less than Herbert/year) and not only has he slowly gotten worse, the team is now getting rid of key players just because they cannot afford them anymore.


In conclusion because frankly i'm tired of saying the same thing over and over again. If Trevor has a consistently good season this year, i'll be far more comfortable giving him said contract. But to guys like yourself saying you'd pay him now, I respectfully disagree it would be a really stupid move.


ALSO another point that hasn't been addressed is the fact that we all talk about taking advantage of the rookie QB contract window to try and win a championship, what good would that do us if we pay him as soon as possible? So much hypocrisy on this board it baffles my mind.

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