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Can RB devaluing be fixed?

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(07-28-2023, 03:41 PM)Jaguarmeister Wrote:
(07-24-2023, 11:09 AM)Caldrac Wrote: The game changed. Some teams are already reverting back a bit to use the current game against their opponents. The tacks have done it for years with Henry. You see the Giants doing it. The 49ers doing it. Baltimore, etc.

We just saw two RBs get selected in the top 15 back in April. We still see some RBs going in RD1 here and there. Everything is cyclical. Pat Mahomes and Joe Burrow cant be Pat Mahomes and Joe Burrow if they're on the bench for more than half a game.

Controlling tempo and clock management is going to come back at some point via running the football. As LBs and SSs get lighter? You watch. Teams will start adding heavier lineman, the FB position and traditional TEs to tee off on them and make short work out of them.

You could make the argument that Pederson is doing it already based on April's draft class. Strange, Bigsby and Parish are all in that power, heavy handed run mold offensively.

At some point. 1500 yard rushers will start to climb and 4500+ yard passers will start to decline. Its all trendy.

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Sorry to pick on this particular comment, but I see Bigsby described this way a lot around here. Is that really his game though?  Admittedly, I don't watch a lot of college football.  I watch highlights of offensive players for fantasy dynasty league purposes, but that's mostly it.  Bigsby's measurables are similar to ETN's.  The difference is ETN is an inch or so shorter and a few pounds heavier and noticeably faster.  Also, ETN has Bigsby on the vert and broad jump category which can be an indication of lower body strength/burst.  Bigsby did outpace ETN on the bench by a few reps.

In watching Bigsby's highlights, his game seems very similar to ETN's to me.  He's quick enough, he has good vision and he's a threat in the passing game as well.  I didn't see a lot of him powering through and over guys or dragging piles.  Sure he's good at breaking arm tackles, but that doesn't necessarily mean he's the short yardage power back. I know that's not specifically what you said above, but I've seen it mentioned here multiple times since we drafted him.  ETN breaks arm tackles as well, but it's somewhat clear short yardage/stacked line/power run situations are probably not what he's best suited for and I would argue that his measurables are more desirable in the short yardage/power category than Bigsby's.

All this leads me to wonder, did I miss something about Bigsby's game by only watching a few 5 minute long clips of highlights of his college career, or are we mistakenly presuming he's significantly more of a power back than ETN or other guys on the roster because his nickname is "Tank"?

From what I have read about him around various scouting reports.

He's a good zone scheme fit. He's a short yardage player with a lot of work inside the redzone. Lacks burst and 3rd level speed gear wise but has good short burst and power. Has been known to create yardage in spite of no blocking. Sound familiar?

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I think it depends on how Doug uses them. I can only recall what I saw a few years back with the Eagles. Where he had a healthy mix of all purpose backs and H-backs enabling him to create some mismatch and misdirection plays out of the backfield. We'll probably see a lot more tighter play designs along the line this year. Strange and Engram in motion with Etienne being split out wide and Bigsby and Parish out of the backfield. 

Maybe it's more of an "illusion" of power running, if that makes sense. Strange will be leading the way though from what I saw out of his Penn State highlights.
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Can RB devaluing be fixed? - by Mikey - 07-24-2023, 09:56 AM
RE: Can RB devaluing be fixed? - by NYC4jags - 07-24-2023, 10:30 AM
RE: Can RB devaluing be fixed? - by mikesez - 07-24-2023, 01:02 PM
RE: Can RB devaluing be fixed? - by Mikey - 07-25-2023, 08:38 AM
RE: Can RB devaluing be fixed? - by NYC4jags - 07-25-2023, 09:19 AM
Can RB devaluing be fixed? - by Caldrac - 07-24-2023, 11:09 AM
RE: Can RB devaluing be fixed? - by TheDogCatcher - 07-24-2023, 02:22 PM
RE: Can RB devaluing be fixed? - by Jaguarmeister - 07-28-2023, 03:41 PM
RE: Can RB devaluing be fixed? - by Caldrac - 08-05-2023, 09:24 AM
RE: Can RB devaluing be fixed? - by p_rushing - 07-24-2023, 07:22 PM
RE: Can RB devaluing be fixed? - by Jag88 - 07-25-2023, 09:13 AM
RE: Can RB devaluing be fixed? - by Cleatwood - 07-25-2023, 09:15 AM
RE: Can RB devaluing be fixed? - by Mikey - 07-25-2023, 01:02 PM
Can RB devaluing be fixed? - by p_rushing - 07-25-2023, 09:44 AM
RE: Can RB devaluing be fixed? - by Mikey - 07-25-2023, 01:23 PM
RE: Can RB devaluing be fixed? - by mikesez - 07-25-2023, 04:13 PM
RE: Can RB devaluing be fixed? - by NYC4jags - 07-25-2023, 10:06 AM
RE: Can RB devaluing be fixed? - by NYC4jags - 07-25-2023, 06:19 PM
RE: Can RB devaluing be fixed? - by NYC4jags - 07-25-2023, 08:46 PM
RE: Can RB devaluing be fixed? - by mikesez - 07-26-2023, 07:25 AM
RE: Can RB devaluing be fixed? - by NYC4jags - 07-26-2023, 07:35 AM
RE: Can RB devaluing be fixed? - by Mikey - 07-26-2023, 09:02 AM
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RE: Can RB devaluing be fixed? - by Jag149 - 07-28-2023, 05:21 PM
RE: Can RB devaluing be fixed? - by Mikey - 07-26-2023, 08:53 AM
RE: Can RB devaluing be fixed? - by Jag149 - 07-26-2023, 01:58 PM
RE: Can RB devaluing be fixed? - by rpr52121 - 07-26-2023, 04:40 PM
RE: Can RB devaluing be fixed? - by mikesez - 07-26-2023, 06:26 PM
RE: Can RB devaluing be fixed? - by Mikey - 07-28-2023, 12:09 PM
RE: Can RB devaluing be fixed? - by NYC4jags - 07-26-2023, 08:54 PM
RE: Can RB devaluing be fixed? - by p_rushing - 07-27-2023, 12:15 AM
RE: Can RB devaluing be fixed? - by NYC4jags - 07-27-2023, 11:50 AM
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RE: Can RB devaluing be fixed? - by Mikey - 07-28-2023, 12:27 PM
RE: Can RB devaluing be fixed? - by p_rushing - 07-27-2023, 07:08 PM
RE: Can RB devaluing be fixed? - by p_rushing - 07-27-2023, 10:33 PM
RE: Can RB devaluing be fixed? - by NYC4jags - 07-28-2023, 10:26 AM
RE: Can RB devaluing be fixed? - by mikesez - 07-28-2023, 12:04 PM
RE: Can RB devaluing be fixed? - by Mikey - 07-28-2023, 12:48 PM
RE: Can RB devaluing be fixed? - by Mikey - 07-28-2023, 03:06 PM
RE: Can RB devaluing be fixed? - by RicoTx - 07-28-2023, 05:48 PM
RE: Can RB devaluing be fixed? - by RicoTx - 07-28-2023, 08:35 PM
RE: Can RB devaluing be fixed? - by Mikey - 07-31-2023, 09:49 AM
RE: Can RB devaluing be fixed? - by flsprtsgod - 07-31-2023, 09:57 AM
RE: Can RB devaluing be fixed? - by Mikey - 07-31-2023, 09:36 AM
RE: Can RB devaluing be fixed? - by NYC4jags - 07-28-2023, 12:33 PM
RE: Can RB devaluing be fixed? - by Jaguarmeister - 07-28-2023, 08:38 PM
RE: Can RB devaluing be fixed? - by Mikey - 07-31-2023, 09:59 AM
RE: Can RB devaluing be fixed? - by NYC4jags - 07-29-2023, 01:19 PM
RE: Can RB devaluing be fixed? - by Jag149 - 07-29-2023, 03:08 PM
RE: Can RB devaluing be fixed? - by NYC4jags - 07-30-2023, 06:05 PM
RE: Can RB devaluing be fixed? - by flsprtsgod - 07-29-2023, 09:16 PM
RE: Can RB devaluing be fixed? - by RicoTx - 07-30-2023, 07:50 AM
RE: Can RB devaluing be fixed? - by p_rushing - 07-30-2023, 08:18 PM
RE: Can RB devaluing be fixed? - by NYC4jags - 07-30-2023, 08:25 PM
RE: Can RB devaluing be fixed? - by wassy04 - 07-31-2023, 05:52 AM
RE: Can RB devaluing be fixed? - by Jag149 - 07-31-2023, 08:32 AM
RE: Can RB devaluing be fixed? - by flsprtsgod - 07-31-2023, 09:22 AM
RE: Can RB devaluing be fixed? - by flsprtsgod - 07-31-2023, 09:38 AM
RE: Can RB devaluing be fixed? - by flsprtsgod - 07-31-2023, 11:24 AM
RE: Can RB devaluing be fixed? - by HURRICANE!!! - 07-31-2023, 11:40 AM
RE: Can RB devaluing be fixed? - by NYC4jags - 08-01-2023, 02:30 PM
RE: Can RB devaluing be fixed? - by flsprtsgod - 08-05-2023, 09:06 AM
RE: Can RB devaluing be fixed? - by flsprtsgod - 08-05-2023, 04:27 PM
RE: Can RB devaluing be fixed? - by Caldrac - 08-05-2023, 09:34 AM
RE: Can RB devaluing be fixed? - by Mikey - 08-07-2023, 09:50 AM
RE: Can RB devaluing be fixed? - by Caldrac - 08-11-2023, 08:10 AM
RE: Can RB devaluing be fixed? - by flsprtsgod - 08-11-2023, 11:13 AM
RE: Can RB devaluing be fixed? - by mikesez - 08-14-2023, 10:59 AM
RE: Can RB devaluing be fixed? - by Mikey - 08-14-2023, 12:38 PM
RE: Can RB devaluing be fixed? - by flsprtsgod - 08-14-2023, 03:04 PM
RE: Can RB devaluing be fixed? - by mikesez - 08-16-2023, 11:40 PM
RE: Can RB devaluing be fixed? - by HURRICANE!!! - 08-16-2023, 05:23 PM
RE: Can RB devaluing be fixed? - by Mikey - 08-14-2023, 09:17 AM
RE: Can RB devaluing be fixed? - by flsprtsgod - 08-14-2023, 09:50 AM
Can RB devaluing be fixed? - by I am Yoda - 08-15-2023, 10:22 AM
RE: Can RB devaluing be fixed? - by flsprtsgod - 08-15-2023, 01:01 PM
RE: Can RB devaluing be fixed? - by Jag149 - 08-15-2023, 08:00 PM
RE: Can RB devaluing be fixed? - by Mikey - 08-16-2023, 07:49 AM
RE: Can RB devaluing be fixed? - by flsprtsgod - 08-16-2023, 08:19 AM
RE: Can RB devaluing be fixed? - by NYC4jags - 08-16-2023, 09:22 AM
RE: Can RB devaluing be fixed? - by rpr52121 - 08-17-2023, 05:11 AM
RE: Can RB devaluing be fixed? - by HURRICANE!!! - 08-21-2023, 05:41 PM
RE: Can RB devaluing be fixed? - by Cleatwood - 08-22-2023, 08:10 AM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 08-22-2023, 08:36 AM
RE: homebiscuit - by NYC4jags - 08-25-2023, 09:30 AM
RE: Can RB devaluing be fixed? - by HURRICANE!!! - 10-27-2023, 09:04 AM
RE: Can RB devaluing be fixed? - by Jaguarmeister - 10-27-2023, 01:06 PM
Can RB devaluing be fixed? - by Caldrac - 09-18-2023, 10:49 PM
RE: Can RB devaluing be fixed? - by p_rushing - 09-19-2023, 11:41 AM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 10-27-2023, 08:53 AM
RE: Can RB devaluing be fixed? - by NewJagsCity - 10-27-2023, 01:20 PM
RE: Can RB devaluing be fixed? - by RicoTx - 10-28-2023, 11:53 PM
RE: Can RB devaluing be fixed? - by homebiscuit - 10-29-2023, 12:19 AM



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