(08-06-2023, 08:54 PM)mikesez Wrote:

(08-06-2023, 07:34 PM)copycat Wrote: Yourea inability to understand the appeal of a Trump is astounding.  Posters that support him continue to tell you his short comings.  They actually acknowledge them.  They spell them out and you continue to ignore their grievances.  You acknowledge there is corruption, but as long as a corrupt system supports you every thing is just fine. 

I watched the movie Elysium today.  It was a great metaphor as to where we are headed as a society.  In that scenario you believe you will be living off world in the lap of luxury.  Unless you realize you’ll be down here with the rest of us scum that you look down upon then that is exactly the world we are headed to.

Your inability to understand us is equally astounding.
Whatever reason you have foir saying the government elites don't represent you, there are tens of millions of Americans who could represent you, that specific part of you, whatever it is, better than Trump does.  Who would actually work hard and achieve more than a tax cut with 4 years in power.
And he's not fighting corruption.  He never has and he never will.  He only fights for himself.

(08-07-2023, 01:02 PM)NYC4jags Wrote:

(08-07-2023, 12:51 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: Education: https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/...20science.

Key takeaway: The USA rates 38th out of 71 in math and 24th in science. American "education" lags behind much of the developed world because our Society depends on an educated and moral people.

Welfare: https://www.urban.org/policy-centers/cro...s%20period.

Key takeaway: US spending on welfare increased by 437% from 1977 to 2020 outpacing education, roads, corrections, and a host of other public services. Bread and circuses man, bread and circuses.

Big Brother: https://www.econlib.org/library/Enc/Gove...rowth.html

Key takeaway: "As the table shows, government expenditures have grown enormously during the past century. As late as 1913, for example, even in a group of seventeen economically advanced countries, government expenditures averaged only about 13 percent of GDP. At most (in Austria, France, and Italy), they came to just 17 percent, and for the United States they were less than 8 percent. Taxation and government employment were at similarly low levels. In contrast, by 1996, government expenditures in the same seventeen countries had reached nearly 46 percent of GDP. Sweden’s were the highest, at more than 64 percent, and U.S. expenditures reached more than 32 percent.1 Taxation, government employment, and other aspects of government had expanded similarly. Moreover, governments have vastly increased the scope and societal penetration of their regulation in ways that spending measures do not reflect. In the United States, for example, private individuals and firms spend hundreds of billions of dollars each year to comply with government regulations aimed at reducing air and water pollution, lowering health risks, and eliminating workplace discrimination against women and members of various ethnic and other protected groups."

You are more beholden to the feds today than at any time in history absent any period of conscription.

So yeah, believe what you like in your cocoon, but these illustrations don't even look at the expansion of criminal law, the rise of the regulatory state, or the power and influence of lobbyists, international corporations, and dark money to leverage federal power against you. Nope, the simple, practical facts are that you are more and more owned by an all-consuming federal leviathan that will continue to spend and grow and tax until there's nothing left of you and me. But hey, you've got "free and fair" elections that are above reproach! Lol.

You don't like the way the gov spends money in 3 key areas and you don't like big business being made to comply with pollution standards. 

Great!! 
I don't like at least two of those things either. 

None of them are doing jack [BLEEP] to make me more beholden to big brother. Not one [BLEEP] tiny iota. 

And then there's the stuff in bold that you can't muster a shred of proof over, but you think everybody ought to be afraid of it anyway. 

So - you got nothin. 
Exactly as I thought.