(09-18-2023, 02:47 PM)Caldrac Wrote:

(09-18-2023, 02:32 PM)carp8dm Wrote: I keep watching the plays from last year on YouTube and jaguars.com and I just don't even recognize this years offense as being the same as last year.  The routes, the play calls, just look different now compared to last year.  This offense just doesn't even look the same.  Even the games we lost early in the season to the Eagles and Denver still had concepts of route running that I haven't seen at all this year.  It's like we took the entire playbook from last year and just threw it out. 

It just doesn't look the same this year.  I can't explain it.  There were plays last year where the o-line was breaking down and yet there was Trevor finding a receiver that had separation.  I just don't see the same thing over the first 2 weeks of this year.

I remember saying to myself last year, even in games we lost how much we really looked like an NFL offense.  I don't really see the same things we were doing last year this year.  Where's the misdirection.  Where's the route concepts from last year that had receivers hitting different levels, short dump offs, flat routes, mid routes and a WR stretching the field.  Now we're running plays where there is one read only.  And the route concepts have receivers hitting the same level, sometimes even running routes right next to each other. 

It's not the same offense as last year.  We have the talent to win our division even with this current scheme we're running on offense.  But this team isn't going to the Super Bowl if we continue to run this current offense.  It's just too easy to defend against  great defenses.  Sure, we'll be average and mediocre defenses.  Trevor is too good and our recievers are too talented.  But against teams like the Chiefs and Dolphins, we're going to have to call games and run plays like the ones we called and ran last year.

I agree. With the look and feel being different. A lot of what is standing out to me so far is that you're seeing less of Lawrence rolling out left or right with a designed receiver or tight end to essentially mirror him to his side of the field. It really has to be a combination of a new play caller in Press Taylor and the piss poor play of the offensive line. 

We're 1 - 1. We played two solid defensive lines with a premier presence on them in Buckner and Jones respectively. I don't think it's time to panic just yet. They technically did score 31 points in week one. They also went 0/4 in the redzone yesterday. So, it's not like they were failing in moving the football at times. 

Just really piss poor execution, maybe Zay's knee injury tripped him up a bit. Maybe Lawrence is starting to feel more and more pressed to beat the Chiefs since they've had our number now for a good bit, which, it's the Chiefs man, it's okay to get kicked down the hill by the King. 

For me, if they start looking like they did yesterday against our divisional opponents or teams where they should be clearly a step above in quality players across the board, then I would say panic a bit as a fanbase. But, this is still a young team learning how to win. With a suspect line at best. Should be a 10 win squad at the minimum with a divisional title or 6th ot 7th play-off seeding. 

Chargers and Bengals falling to 0 - 2 and the Jets being Rodgerless also help us down the stretch.

Dude, you're dead on about the roll outs.  I mentioned it earlier.  Last year, we had Trevor rolling out with a "chasing" reciever or so many TD plays in the red zone.  We haven't seen any of that.

OK, I just finished watching First Things First.  And man, Bru and Wildes are crapping all over Trevor.  Obviously these jerk stores didn't watch the game or really know what's going on.  But the fact is the same.  This offensive play calling is making our Prince that is Promised look bad.  The play calling is terrible.  And as you mention, it's not like last year.  Even with a bad O-Line, if we called plays like we did last year, we would have scored at least 2 TDs in the redzone.  Instead, we settled for FGs and then crapped the bed another time because we aren't running plays that worked last year.  

It's like we threw out last year's playbook.  I mean, sweet fancy Moses!  We're at the 1 yard line and we run some nonsene play that runs Trevor out to the flat!?!?  Last year Trevor took several QB runs straight up the middle!!!!  This isn't OFFENSE is NOT BEING COACHED BY THE SAME PERSON AS LAST YEAR'S TEAM.  Let's just all accept this reality.   Just looks at these highlights:  https://www.jaguars.com/video/highlight-...022-season   It's just not the same...

Look, I'm not a hater.  Matter of fact, I'm Die Hard on the talent of this team.  But the coaching is bad right now.  Like really bad.  And dude, if Pederson is going to let his buddy continue to sabatage this offense because of his loyalty to an incompetent dude that I'm sure is a really great friend, then what the hell are we doing here?  This is about winning a Super Bowl.  This isn't about letting your homie get paid.  This about winning.

On a side note, Zay's injury came from that terrible Agnew sweep route that turned into a backwards lateral turnover.  I'm hoping Zay is OK.  But he may well have a torn ligament in his knee.  All on a crappy paly call that, if you watch the replay...  The entire KC Linebacker corps and the entire KC sencondary was just waiting for Trevor to throw it out to the flat to Agnew.  It was obvious.  If this was last year's team, Agnew's running out to the flat would have been a misdirection and we would have had counter routes to the other side of the field.

This offensive scheme and play calling is just not good enough against the top 4 teams of the NFL.  (KC, Miami, Dallas, 49ers)

Additionally, if we continue to run our offense like this, teams like ATL, Pitt, Buff, Bal, and CLE can keep the game close enough so that a flukey play or penalty would cost us a loss.  This team can wind up with only 7 wins if we continue to let this offense be run the way it currently is and we run into a streak of bad luck.  That's all I'm saying.  Next week's game is important in so much as that we need to prove that this offense is actually legitimate.

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