(09-23-2023, 10:39 AM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: (09-22-2023, 10:53 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: A - Lawrence shares blame in many of those red zone fails - the keeper and some high passes
B - the pocket time stat is a an aggregate of all snaps - both designed quick releases and quick throws due to pressure - It is 100% relevant because he both has to run too many quick release plays due to bad line play AND has to throw early because of garbage protection
There is a reason why analysts the world over revere 2.5 seconds as the magic number for QBs to make 2 or 3 reads and get the ball out. Analysis of QBs over the last decade of modern football lays it out clearly - very few QBs who get less than that produce consistently in the pass game and especially with downfield passing - while the number of productive QBs who get that measure of time clearly validates its significance - there are a hundred articles out there on it - you should read up
Fields cannot make and process reads quickly and that's why he has such a late release time - different animal
One of Trevors better qualities is his quick release, Fields on the other hand holds onto the ball forever. Our o lines are really not that much different, but one guy has 4 seconds and the other has 2? I'm just saying that stat being used as a single reason the O line sucks is weird because it covers more than just what the O line are doing.
LOL
I understand the factors that affect that stat line.
Our OL is not giving anyone 4 seconds to stand in a pocket, nor is it giving anyone a pocket to stand in at all half the time. You can count on one hand the number of times this happens in a game for TL. Rare.
I'm over here
begging for a line that would give him 2.5 secs on 60% of the passing snaps.
He'd probably hit 300 yards through the air every single week.
The OL doesn't suck
because of that stat - the stat merely supports what is readily apparent to football fans with eyeballs:
Trevor doesn't get a clean pocket to work in very often
- and he is forced to throw a designed quick pass, evade pressure, or hurry a throw way too often because he is under pressure faster than most QBs in the NFL.
This stuff is very basic, and insanely obvious if you simply rewatch the games and just focus on the OL. (especially if you can get the all 22 views)
They are playing very poorly collectively.
Little has been good. Harrison started out OK and then faced Jones, and the rest of them have been manhandled by their opponents on the regular to start the year. You can go on trying to twist it however you want - but none of what I'm saying is debatable if you just watch the tape. These dudes are not winning their matchups.
Trevor's quick release and escapability is the reason most fans are just now starting to get hip to the fact that our line isn't good, but it would be unwise to let that blind you into disregarding the line's underachievement.
