(10-05-2023, 10:13 AM)homebiscuit Wrote:

(10-05-2023, 09:39 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: It's not even a wall. It's a fence.

They've found multiple areas of it broken thru with a cordless grinder and a cut off wheel anyone can get from a hardware store for 120 bucks 

The prospect of a wall across the entire border was always dumb and it still is. Waste of money. 
Identifying the areas it might actually help was always a better call. Put your fencing where it might work, a leave the rest to concentrated patrol and drone surveillance.

The immigration issues need better solutions than physical barriers. People are clever and they'll just find a way around, over or through. Efforts need to be coordinated with the countries sending the most immigrants our way to nip this [BLEEP] earlier and slow the flow from the source. 

The drug issue is ugly - but it has always been there - the only thing that has changed is the drug du jour and it happened to come at a time when America was deep in a depressant addiction due to our own prescription drug industry doling out OXY for 20 years like they were tic-tacs. Now those same folks (and many more) are falling off from the deadlier stuff.
Treating the addiction along with ramped up efforts to slow it at the border as well as curbing distribution could help, but everyone and their brother should know that the "war on drugs" is a joke. 

There is no foolproof way to stop it. We've seen this for almost 40 years!! People want to get high really badly and people want to sell them drugs really badly. We've never found a way to stop that. And it hasn't been for lack of effort from many administrations Dem and Rep. 

You think a fence I can cut through in 15 minutes between patrols is going to change that??

Then why are they now deciding to build it if it’s so futile? Perhaps because it’s nothing more than a posturing move in response to even Democrats complaining about the border now? Which is it, an effective tool to slow migrants, or a useless obstacle? You’re playing both sides of the fence (ooh, ooh, good pun!)

Edit: Speaking of playing both sides of the fence:

https://x.com/RealSaavedra/status/107849...00800?s=20

Useful deterrent in strategic placements

Waste of money for an entire 2000 mile border

Simple, no? 

Yes - they will need to (hopefully already have?) address the ease at which it was initially penetrated by coyotes/immigrants with basic implements

The drug thing is a separate issue and the wall/fence will not do much to help it

yes, good pun

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