(10-11-2023, 07:01 AM)mikesez Wrote:

(10-11-2023, 12:57 AM)p_rushing Wrote: That is the problem you cannot solve. You can't force people to change. The only way people change is if they have an incentive to change. Throwing people, education, or money at this issue won't solve anything. The man and woman both have to be willing to change.

Short of women withholding sex until marriage, the men have no incentive to change. They can be a deadbeat and still have women who don't care, so they have no reason to change. Women also don't care about having a kid because it improves their government funding and even more without the man around.

You can't force the societal change but you can cut off the funding and make it beneficial if the parents live together. Then hopefully it becomes the requirement that women demand from men, so then the men can't go around fathering a bunch of kids because both women won't get the money. Then after 10-20 years, although may take longer to build back up as it's quicker to destroy things, maybe the default has become to get married and have a family.


It won't ever happen, though, because the government is only interested in providing for the consequences. If they instead solved the action that caused the consequences, then you wouldn't need the government's money anymore.

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So you agree that it's foolish to blame today's Democratic Party for problems like these.

Mike, this problem was already largely solved in the US. The Moynihan Report was a call to action for the country to help black families who were only at a 26 percent out of wedlock child rate back then, which was considered terrible. Then democrats installed a racist welfare policy and the bottom fell out. It's preposterous for you to try to sidestep this issue. It continues today in the form of critical theory practices implemented by the left. Why? Because they don't believe in the nuclear family as a bedrock of society. White families now have children out of wedlock at a 26 percent clip. 

This falls directly on the policies of the left. It's straight out of the philosophies of the left. I wish you were half as well versed on these subjects as you think you are.

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