(10-11-2023, 09:56 AM)mikesez Wrote: Caldrac, you ask who benefits from us giving Israel money? Don't be dense.  Israel benefits.  Next question, why should we care if Israel benefits? Well why should we care about anything? Caring doesn't have to be rational. 

The elites care because they relate to Israel.  They know that our society is built on pluralism and democracy. They know that those things can make us appear weak when compared to a society built on zealotry and dictatorship.  So we can't let another pluralistic and democratic society like ours be victimized by a dictatorship of zealots.  That would make our hypothetical weakness suddenly real.  I am well educated and comfortable so I sympathize with the elites on these points.

Many of the plebes in the US have no real love for our pluralism or our democracy but they are under the influence of dispensational premillenialism, an interpretation of the Christian Bible that originated in Ireland in 1830. 

Your quandary,  Caldrac and L2L, is you clearly don't belong to either category, neither an optimistic secular elite nor a pessimistic but religious plebe.

Not being dense. Just asking at the end of the day, given the amount of issues we're seeing here at home in the states, whether you stand on the liberal side, conservative side or right in the center like most people TRY to do. Is it really fair to keep involving the US tax payer into these global issues that have failed miserably in producing any long, substantial peace? 

We're getting nothing out of this. Other than more threats and fear after the dust eventually settles. I don't care because I have a heart in the matter over there, Mikesez. I care because the money we send over there is less money being utilized to better the lives of the only people I do care about over here. Americans.

Elites playing God, Judge, Jury and Executioner has always worked out so well for all of the classes beneath them, right? It's just a game of monopoly to these folks. While they're playing with house money and some of us are struggling to keep the lights on, food on the table or even a [BLEEP] foot in the door. 

It's bittersweet being caught in the middle of this nonsense. I cannot tell you how much it eats at me that I get no say in where my tax dollars go. I get no say in how and why it should be used here to benefit our people but yet I am told I am a racist, P.O.S for not siding with Ukraine and Israel on a daily basis by social media and the mainstream media. 

While they slaughter each other with arms and resources already provided to them. We're overdue for some major, major karma here at home. We've done nothing to stop this. We've done nothing to slow it down. It wears on me. I cannot explain it. I am grateful to be here and alive and well for now as an American.

I just fear for it's long term health. My health. Our health. Your health. Our kids and grandkids futures. We're failing them. It bothers me.

It's mind numbing.

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