(10-13-2023, 09:19 AM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote:

(10-12-2023, 05:10 PM)mikesez Wrote: Israel released Gaza to control their border with Egypt in 2005.  Egypt has allowed limited numbers of people to come and go, as has Israel.  However Gaza has never controlled its airspace nor its access to international waters.  Israel has blocked both of those continually since 2000.

So everything you said is wrong.

Egypt is allowing NO one to exit the southern border.

I have not idea what "Israel released Gaza to control their border with Egypt" even means since Gaza is a region not a government. If you meant to state Israel released Palestine to control their border with Egypt that is absolutely not true.  Palestine does not control any portion of the Gaza border.  Why are you talking about 2005 when I am posting about the current situation.

I see you post a lot in the political section, usually very lengthy posts in which many other posters pretty much rebuke your statements, making you look pretty bad.  Perhaps I need to pay closer attention to your posts to see how inaccurate your statements are.  Unfortunately, I do have a FT job so I can't fact check all of your inaccuracies....

I was responding to JIB.  You are correct that since the attacks began Israel is not allowing anyone to leave, and neither is Egypt.  You are also correct that before the attacks, even though some people were allowed to come and go, most people in Gaza were never allowed to come and go.  So your first post was basically correct.  It's JIB's post that was wrong.  Then your post replying to me, you got more specific and your specifics are unfortunately wrong.  Every border has authorities on both sides.  The two authorities must both consent for that border to be open.  If one does not, it is closed.  The border crossing between Gaza and Egypt has not had an Israeli presence since 2005 when Israel withdrew their military from the strip.  Since 2006 when Hamas took over the strip, it has been open only sporadically, and only for very few people and no goods, because Egypt does not formally recognize Hamas.

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