(10-14-2023, 06:01 PM)copycat Wrote:

(10-14-2023, 08:27 AM)mikesez Wrote: I think people who steal stuff or try to steal stuff should go to jail.  I've never said any different.  If I was in a city where I didn't feel like the cops were doing enough to stop theft and catch thieves, I would move. It's why I live in a city now, not an unincorporated area.  In my personal experience, Orange County Sheriff doesn't care about robbery, but the various cities in Orange County do.

I don't know what kind of mold you think I'm in that I need to break.  Where do you come up with this stuff?

I'm happy to pay more taxes to put more cops out there to catch the bad guys and more prosecutors and public defenders and judges to process them, but I think sentences are long enough already.  I would pay more taxes on efforts to get ex cons back into the workforce (where they will pay tax dollars) than I would to keep them in jail longer (where they will consume tax dollars).

Your last paragraph is interesting.  There is a percentage of our population that will never be productive members of society.  Whether it be mental illness or just plain horrible human beings.  What do we do with them?  I personally believe in 3 strikes and you go to a work farm never to return to society again.

Sure.  One of the many reasons you can't reach utopia.  If you make life too nice for these unproductive people, you can disincentivize the productive ones.  I agree with 3 strike rules in general.

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(10-14-2023, 09:26 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: Yes. They are. You haven't read progressive ideology, and that is very clear. You are an unwitting ideologue, Stone Head.

If ESG doesn't work then another corporation that doesn't implement it as much or at all will overtake the corporations that did.

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