(10-23-2023, 12:31 PM)Caldrac Wrote:

(10-23-2023, 12:27 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: Then pass rush win rate is a pretty dumb stat, because if all he does is stand up, that limits the QB's options on the play.  I looked at that video and I saw one single instance that I would call a win.  But, I don't know what standard that person used who said he was 7th last week in pass rush win rate, and if a "pass-rush win" is simply "limiting the QB's options," I suppose he won on every play, theoretically, just by being on the field.  

I'm not as down on him as some people are, but I think that pass rush win rate has to be pretty bogus.

I agree with this. For me, a "win" would be when a defender either:

A. Directly forces the QB to flush out of the pocket and throw an incompletion, check down or turnover. 
B. Directly getting his hand on the QB and taking him nearly down.
C. Destroying his blocker after engagement which results in him putting his guy on the ground completely or making him whiff big time.

Simply engaging a blocker and pushing him back like a sled doesn't cut it for me. Unless he throws his blocker into the QB. That would be pretty cool to see. If you can't get to the QB? Do the next best thing and seismic toss your blocker into the QB.