(10-30-2023, 11:18 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote:

(10-30-2023, 11:06 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: "All their wins"? Yeah, the Carolina Panthers were the offensive juggernaut of the NFL and made opposing D coordinators quake in their khakis. If you can't see that having the absolute best running back in the League did nothing for that terrible franchise then I can't help you. Just look at CMC's stats by year and compare it to their record. The numbers will smack you right in the face; when he was just ok in 2017 they won 11 games, when he was really good the next seasons they were middle of the pack to bad. Without him their 6-10 would'e been 4-12? Get out of here with that garbage. Just accept that running backs are low value players who's contributions are pretty much interchangeable for teams both bad and good, it's clear in the stats and clear in the behavior of good NFL franchises.

And just about everything about ETN for this team is flat out lucky: lucky that we got TLaw, lucky that K Toney wasn't the pick, lucky that ETN's foot injury wasn't career ending, lucky that Urban didn't get the chance to ruin him that season , lucky that Urbz got fired, lucky that our free agent class of skill players turned out so well, lucky that we got Doug. We've had an amazing streak of fortune and it's showing on the field...but luck isn't a long term strategy for success either. I fear that our GM is going to eventually be the impediment that holds us back from being really great, and this string of luck and really good coaching/play will come to an end without achieving the success we could've otherwise enjoyed.

Meanwhile, we're 6-2 and I'd rather savor this moment, so carry on.

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*CMC was on his second team, so that is really a different than the other 3 listed.

It's called not having a QB.  If your team doesn't have a QB your not going to be very good.  They had a really good WR as well in Moore amd pass rusher in Burns but it didn't matter without the QB.  He didn't have a very good team around him either which is why their record was bad most years.  You could use your shtick for every team.  Chiefs are luckybthey got Mahomes, lucky they got Kelce in the 3rd, lucky Andy Reid.  You could use that stupid excuse for every team.

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(10-30-2023, 11:13 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: The replacement cost for a running back is negliable, they are mostly interchangable and you can find one on Draft Saturday or on the street if needed. Get an offensive tackle off the street and you get Guy Whimper-level bad. The Risk/Reward plus Replacement Cost make it very easy to see how draft capital should be allocated.

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If a team like KC needs a running back they draft one in the 7th and he performs as well as those taken on Day 1. If a team like the Falcons needs a running back they take him on Day 1 and keep losing.

KC drafted a RB in the first a couple years ago.  It was a bad pick because they took the wrong RB.  If they took Jonathan Taylor it would of been a good pick or maybe even a great pick

As I've said throughout the thread, KC could do what they want because they were coming off a Super Bowl victory. Good teams can take RBs high if they want because they aren't leaving gaping holes in their roster to do so, they can take late RBs if they want because, for them, late RBs perform not much different than Day 1 RBs. For teams like the Jaguars who (at the time) have holes everywhere, bypassing a foundational player for a final piece player is a bad use of draft capital. BTW, they didn't win the SB again with CEH, they had to draft a 7th rounder to get that trophy. Everything I'm telling you is backed up by the stats and the eye test, you just don't want to see it because you're wrong.

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