(10-30-2023, 06:13 PM)The Real Marty Wrote:

(10-30-2023, 04:31 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: This isn't an intellectually rigorous response from you. There is audio of the loser of the election begging for a GA state official to "find" him the votes, he believed to be fraudulent. You guys constantly leave context out of your Trump quotes. It's easy to cherry pick statements, because the guy is as inarticulate as they come, but there's always more context. Grab them by the [BLEEP]. Context. Find me the votes. Context. Hydroxychloriquine. Context. Go to the capital. Context. There is clearly context to his words that you and your peers CHOOSE not to consider. You don't get to lecture us when you constantly remove context from debates. If you aren't intellectually honest enough to try to steel man your opponent's position before criticizing their position, your lols are a damning indictment of your own failure to regulate your bias.

But wasn't he asking for an exact number of votes he needed to win in Georgia?  Here's what he said:  

“The people of Georgia are angry. The people of the country are angry, and there's nothing wrong with saying that, you know, that you've recalculated,” Trump said on the call. "All I want to do is this: I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have... Fellas, I need 11,000 votes, give me a break."

He wanted Raffensperger to announce that he'd recalculated, and he'd found 11,000 more votes for Trump.  He's not asking Raffensperger to find the fraud, he's asking Raffensperger to commit fraud.