(11-01-2023, 03:20 AM)p_rushing Wrote:

(10-31-2023, 01:55 PM)mikesez Wrote: As politely as possible, that's [BLEEP].
Pipes carry water.  Piprs aren't water.  They're pipes.
They don't have good water because it rarely rains there, and they've overdrawn their aquifer.  Tel Aviv would be in the same situation except the Israelis built a canal to divert water from the sea of Galilee for Tel Aviv.  If the Arabs had pursued a peaceful, multi-ethnic state, that canal would probably extend to Gaza by now.  Pipes becoming rockets has nothing to do with it.

It's one of the many examples of aid being used for terrorism. Everything going there is filtered through the terrorists and then given out. It's why it can't continue to exist unless it really becomes a prison.

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True that aid to Gaza typically goes to the terrorists.
Even treating the population more like prisoners, by occupying each street corner and supervising each warehouse, will not work by itself because the locals will find ways to kill the occupying soldiers regardless.

The population needs to be deported, or offered a future with more dignity and civil rights. 

That future could be the mythic Palestinian State.  But Israel can't create that outcome directly.  The Palestinians themselves (or other Arabs) have to organize an army that believes in having a Palestinian state next to an Israeli state. Then that army has to defeat and replace Hamas and create that new state.  The IDF could support that army with air strikes but it can't be that army.

The other possibility for them staying, that Israel can create but won't, is having the IDF defeat Hamas and give everyone under IDF occupation Israeli citizenship with as little discrimination as possible.

Then the deporting possibility, there has to be a state that will take them. If Egypt or Jordan or UAE were offered enough money, they might start to take them. The price they would ask is probably quite high though, probably around $50k per person. Works out to at least 50 billion dollars that would mostly have to come from us.

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