(11-04-2023, 11:37 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote:

(11-04-2023, 11:19 AM)Jag149 Wrote: Baalke, a terrible drafter - I can see how you might think that as when things work out the way expected it doesn't count. He was lucky. Only things that count are the negative ones.  No one on this board is better at drafting. They may believe they are but at the end of the day they are not. See the articles below for why.

That's why I keep saying that the past strategy CANNOT BE A LONG TERM ONE - I believe we all agree on this but you keep repeating it. Nah, I keep being told everything is fine and the mistakes are immaterial.

he's a short term thinker - He doesn't let us in on what his long term plans are because he doesn't work for us nor does he have to. I am afraid there is no proof of this. Again, see below. When you follow his career it's clear that talent selection and long term strategy aren't his strengths.

we were LUCKY to get our best coach ever because the GM almost screwed that up too. - Shad Kahn has already said HE wanted Urban Myers forever, he had been trying for years. That was him not Baalkie.    That statement is just plain wrong. Has nothing to do with Urban, has everything to do with Pederson leaving Jax without a deal after he was interviewed. Pederson was the guy but they screwed around with Jim Caldwell and Byron and all that other mess instead of just seeing the right guy there in front of them. Goes to inability to pick talent.

Why are you suddenly so anti-Baalkie?  You know Kahn's not going to give you his job right?

I've been anti-Baalke since he got here, we knew he was a snake when we picked him up.

As for proof, here's two nice writeups about his time in San Fran, he's not any different now, he's just gotten some breaks that have helped. 

Draft: https://www.ninersnation.com/2018/8/26/1...icks-49ers

Free agency: https://ninernoise.com/2018/02/17/49ers-...2015-2016/

Those who don't learn from history are usually doomed to repeat it.

First, I'll go on record saying that I think Jed York had a LOT of input into his work while in San Fran. All the toxicity and undermining that seemed to be the label everyone put squarely on Baalke's back hasn't seemed to be the character our team has developed under his tenure.

Which brings me to my second point - Maybe I'm a hopeless optimist, but I like to imagine people learn from mistakes, until they prove they don't. I was WAY down on Urbz because he showed multiple times in past jobs that he wasn't going to gut out difficult situations, and guess what - the league wasn't a cake walk and he objectively made us a worse team for his 'efforts'.  I have yet to see Baalke burying anyone under the bus, subverting authority, or fostering any discord among the ranks. His selections have been ok, his management of the roster has been fine.

I think a lot of preconceived notions are painting him in an undue light in a lot of these threads. We have endured soooooooooooo much worse than his leadership. I could be wrong. The ship could crumble and he becomes the dastardly villain so many here make him out to be, but I don't see how where we are today gives any of us reason to think he's some disaster waiting to happen.

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(11-05-2023, 12:04 AM)OG-JAGFAN Wrote: What happened to this thread? It went from a Darious Williams thread to a Baalke circle jerk?

We must have our scapegoats, even when we are 6-2 and firmly in control of our own postseason destiny.

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