(11-10-2023, 10:15 AM)NYC4jags Wrote:

(11-10-2023, 09:08 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: I'm not offended.  

You and I seem to agree on the main concept that the decision to draft a player has to be based on a combination of positional value and talent level.  But if you think that, you can't say scouting is worthless, because otherwise, how are you going to determine talent level?   And you are saying scouting is worthless, because you say they are wrong as often as they are right.  Besides, if you are going to throw out running backs, and instead pick a defensive end or something, which one are you going to pick without scouting them?  

I would also point out that the rate at which first round draft picks sign new contracts with the team that drafted them is not indicative of anything.  All it means is that some players reach free agency and their original team can't afford them.  A better indication would be the length of a career, or the trade value of a 1st round pick as opposed to a later pick.  I don't see anyone trading a first round pick for a third round pick.  (Maybe I misunderstand your point about first round picks, because it doesn't make any sense.)

LOL

I give up 

I never said scouting was worthless. Please stop putting words in my [BLEEP] mouth Marty

You can't make an educated guess without at least trying to educate yourself first can you?

Concept is simple,
Every first  round pick is a gamble
I don't want to gamble my greatest  capital on positions that have crap value in the league

I'm not gonna say anymore about it because you're not having an honest conversation with me at this point