(11-11-2023, 12:17 PM)TheDogCatcher Wrote:

(11-11-2023, 11:45 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: I'm treating the Baalke era in Jacksonville separately from whatever he did before he got here.
He wasn't collaborating with Doug Pederson before, and I think that is making a difference. 

In that regard - I'm not going to lump him in with one group or category just yet until we see what comes of the 22 and 23 draft classes and how well he manages the cap with the pending big contracts looming. 

Also worth pointing out that Roseman, like every GM, has had some swings and misses.

Here are some first round duds going back to 2014 from Roseman:
Marcus Smith
Carson Wentz (~)
Andre Dillard
Jalen Reagor

2nd round duds:
JJ Arcega-Whiteside
Sydney Jones
(there are 4 years with no 2nd round pick between 2014 and now)

3rd:
Davion Taylor ( 7 starts in 3 years - a lot like the Baalke/Muma scenario) 
Rasul Douglas (fizzled in Philly - journeyman hot and cold player now)
Josh Huff
Isaac Seumolu


Roseman has his share of wasted capital.

Nice breakdown, but imagine you're Khan. How do you respond to this offer?


Jeff Lurie: "Shad, fans are attributing our team's success over the years to Howie, not me. From one big ego exec to another, I think you can understand that simply can't fly."

Shad: "Well, cry me a river. The fans blamed me for the Urban Meyer debacle. I'll gladly clap in the background while Dougie P. hoists the Lombardi and then does a victory lap in the media bashing his time in Philly."

Lurie: "OK, Mr. Wise Guy. Let's cut to the chase: How about you send me a Firehouse sub with all the fixings and Baalke in exchange for a Philly cheese steak and Howie? I'm getting ready to promote Dave Caldwell. I think he's learned from his mistakes down there. He raved about Trent's coffee fetching skills. Whaddya say buddy?"

I don't know what to say to that. 
I wasn't trying to say Baalke is going to have the same success as Roseman. 
And teams don't trade GMs of course. 

I just think that we fans tend to put lots of weight on GM's bad moves (that we judge prematurely) and place very little weight on their successful moves, unless they happen to be making those successful ones for someone else. It's a classic "grass is always greener" dynamic in my opinion. 

GMs and OCs are our easiest scapegoats to rail against as modern NFL fans.

I'll feel more comfortable passing judgement on Baalke's overall work in Jax when the dust has settled on more of his acquisitions.

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