(11-11-2023, 07:52 PM)mikesez Wrote:

(11-11-2023, 02:31 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: That is such an oversimplification. For a guy that pines to be nuanced, you need to acknowledge that the government apparatus can and does function at times independent from appropriate oversight. This isn't about what Trump said. It's about policing unelected bureaucracies and protecting individual freedom. There is literally no way to enforce unbiased misinformation and disinformation and the government should be playing no part in it, at least domestically. Personally, I don't really care what they censor that comes from outside sources, provided it's verifiable and transparent. Although the truth is most people blathering about Russian disinformation are woefully underinformed.

I have personally experienced government administrators going beyond their charge and making my life difficult.  I literally lose days of work when it happens.  They are independent humans.  They want to feel important.  You can't legislate that away.  A society that allows people, including government employees, to do what they think is right while they do their jobs, is better than one that tries to integrate people into a hive mind.

Huh... are you incompetent when people do what they shouldn't. This is your default assumption with Trump, but you give yourself grace. Furthermore, you find yourself in solidarity with a group that went beyond the scope of their jobs and censored objectively true statements and obvious parody that disenfranchises your "fellow" conservatives. You attack the one and defend the other. Not only that, but every director from the Trump administration also denies implementing this policy. Just saying, Mikey, you should be less dogmatic about your starting positions. It's ok for us to push back against the government. 

I feel like that line of debate is relatively wrapped up, don't you? Now I'll just sit and wait for NYC to post that DHS mandate.

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