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**NYC4jags** · 11-12-2023, 03:06 PM

(11-11-2023, 12:44 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote:
(11-11-2023, 10:34 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: It is the entire topic of the thread.
The one Jim Jordan is whining about in the article from the original post.
You want me to research it for you?
LOL
no

... which speaks volumes to his ineptitude.

Huh. Shouldn't take you that long, right? I mean, you were just HAHAHAing about it 2 posts ago. Provide me the information in the DHS mandate from Trump that you were referring to, please. I bet you can't.

As to ineptitude, assuming you are referencing his agencies and not his hyperbole, are you even remotely aware the size and scope of government. It would be impossible for any President to be fully aware of everything that's happening in his departments. Period. Biden didn't do it. Obama didn't do it. Nobody can do it. These agencies are huge.

I am 20 pages into the disinformation report that I'm sure you haven't read. I put that down for a bit to read more on the EIP. This was NOT approved by Trump, but administration attorneys. That means that the general counsel of the DHS or CISA signed off on this partnership. I can't even find out the specific people who approved it, because that information is not released. Those attorneys are not appointed by Trump, but by the director of DHS or CISA. You can confirm this by visiting the EIP site and reading about it if you want, but I gave you the relevant info. I'm not even convinced they've done anything wrong at this point (other than their own bias, which always exists in spades at universities), but I still have 80 pages to go, so that could change.

The CISA was a congressional act to protect against cybersecurity threats in 2018. Read this [BLEEP]:

https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-cong.../3359/text

Seriously, if you can make it through a page of that without getting frustrated, I'll buy you a beer. You think Trump is reading that? You think our congress is reading that? You think that was written for the people? Well, been sludging through that, too. No where in there is this department commissioned to protect against misinformation or disinformation. The DHS, at least under the Trump administration, had no authority to regulate domestic misinformation or disinformation.

So, just so were clear, a department that wasn't assigned to safeguard against misinformation and disinformation, formed a partnership with a private agency of its own volition. It wasn't approved by congress. It didn't go through Trump. It then coordinated with EIP to verify information and send that to social media companies to flagged as misinformation or disinformation. Not only that, but students from Stanford also worked at both CISA and the EIP simultaneously. According to the report, this resulted in a disproportionate disparity between political ideology, where satire and true information was regularly flagged.

(11-11-2023, 08:47 AM)mikesez Wrote: I think he would have made another angry tweet about it, and he would have been unable to give a clear, lawful order regarding the behavior. So he would have tried, and failed, to stop it.

I agree with you. But he didn't, did he. Meaning what, most likely?

LOL

Hilarious.

But typical.

You have no defense for Trump being too stupid to realize an agency he controls was screwing with his own disinformation campaign.

BuT He DIDn'TKnoW!! No oNe CouLd HavE KnowN!!

No.That's garbage. It was ALL over the news in 2018 and 2019. And we know the orange clown watches the news because he tweeted lies about everything they reported that upset him constantly. You are weakly trying to spin this into some scenario where his ignorance and ineptitude excuse him from being ignorant and inept.

It's pretty funny.

Enjoy the light reading. I won't bother clicking your link. My position is unscathed no matter what you dig up.

This [BLEEP] is simple:

Jordan and the other idiots from the article in the OP are just whining because their lies were censored "Oh NOEZ - They aren't letting me lie to Americans enough!!" LOL
Now in hindsight - they've finally connected enough dots to realize the clown in chief probably could have done something to exclude them (and himself) from the initially intended propaganda censorship. Even though the deleted posts were 100% justified.
So - all they are doing is moaning about not being able to lie while implicating the ineptitude of their little cult leader who mistakenly let something good happen on his watch

I don't give a [BLEEP] why he didn't know that the DHS had implemented this effort to curb election interference and disinformation. Doesn't matter one iota. It happened on his watch and it was in response to an issue made prominent in the news cycle. That's on him no matter how you want to scurry around defending his ignorance.
The moron doesn't know what countries border Russia. Why would I be surprised he didn't keep tabs on propaganda policy affecting an election he was trying to win??

That's another fun one for you to spin. He was running for re-election and you want to excuse him for being ignorant about his own gov't agencies controlling campaign disinformation.

Trying to defend this is truly tilting at a windmill. I have no clue why you'd bother.