(12-03-2023, 11:21 AM)Sneakers Wrote:

(12-03-2023, 09:59 AM)mikesez Wrote: I said it was the main concern.  Not the only concern. A local problem could become a global problem but not always. CO2 or other GHG in the atmosphere starts out as a global problem.

Either way, it was an ignorant comment and an insult to environmentalists.  Specializing in non-global issues (migratory patterns, local water pollution, etc.) does not make any individuals' concerns and dedication to the cause, less "serious" than that of those who are focused on emissions. 

CO2 did not "start out" as a global problem, it was far more localized.   Researching the history of smog in Los Angeles might help you to understand it.

Just wow.  

1) who cares if environmentalists are insulted? Are you an environmentalist? I say they have skewed priorities.  Either I'm right about that or I'm wrong.  The "insult" is irrelevant.  A serious person would set aside their feelings about a cuddly animal long enough to realize that climate change threatens literally every habitat, not just the one their favorite endangered species lives on.  That's one difference between a touchy-feely or emotion-motivated person and a serious person.

2) smog has nothing to do with CO2 and CO2 has nothing to do with smog.  All fossil fuels create CO2 when burned.  Some create smog, some don't.  Some create smog sometimes, but if you burn them at different conditions the smog is eliminated.  The CO2 remains regardless.  Smog causes the atmosphere to emit more heat overnight, giving some cooling effect.  CO2 warms the atmosphere.  Smog breaks down and disappears over a course of weeks.  CO2 remains in the atmosphere for decades. The moment China emits CO2, that CO2 is affecting warming in Chile just as much as in China. It was smog, not CO2, that created the global cooling concern that folks sometimes bring up.

Once again, you come at me all aggressive and once again you are wrong on the facts and wrong on the analysis of the facts.

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