03-23-2014, 10:01 AM
(This post was last modified: 03-23-2014, 10:03 AM by JaguarKick.)
For those complaining about the poll, I did that on purpose. Refer to the thread "General Consensus on Johnny Manziel." From that thread, here is the quoted:
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<p style="margin:0in 0in .0001pt;">Not necessarily. The numbers are actually a lot higher than you think.
<p style="margin:0in 0in .0001pt;">Kid's almost got 30% of the vote on these boards, and that's only taking into account the most extreme cases of getting him at #3, or the most extreme case of trading-up. IMO, adding a few more poll options such as trading down and getting Johnny in the late teens, or picking him up at the top of the 2nd round if he drops that far, might have even a few more votes going his way.
<p style="margin:0in 0in .0001pt;">And regardless, you have to of course factor in that this is not say Manziel vs Bridgewater or Manziel vs Clowney at #3,but Manziel vs virtually everyone in the draft who is available at #3.<span> And so those who voted "Don't want Manziel" include a wide range of people, pretty much all those who prefer Bridgewater, all the Bottles fans, all the Mccarron fan(you know who you are Jungle Cat), all those who think we should get Clowney, Barr, trade-down, etc, etc, at #3.</span>
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<p style="margin:0in 0in .0001pt;">As a matter of fact, other than maaaaaaaybe Clowney, I can't imagine any other player this year getting that high of the percentage(even on these boards) with those same 3 poll options.
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As said before, the term of the polls are a bit extreme, and I think you're reading the results wrongly/too harshly.
<p style="margin:0in 0in .0001pt;">I mean surely you don't think that any player in the entire draft would have over 71%, or even 50% of the votes for the #3 pick on THESE boards do you?<b><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica, 'sans-serif';color:#282828;"> </b></span>Everybody has a different opinion from what I've seen.
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<p style="margin:0in 0in .0001pt;">So how do you ever determine a consensus then? Well you see who has the highest or lowest percentage
<p style="margin:0in 0in .0001pt;">For example Manziel won the heisman will something like 45% of the first places votes, and RG3 won it with something like 34% during his year. Meaning there were almost 70% who didn't vote for RG3, but he had a higher percentage of anyone else...get it?
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<p style="margin:0in 0in .0001pt;">And so like I said before, put Bottles, or Bridgewater, or some of these other guys under the same three poll questions of 1)take at #3, 2)trade-up, or 3)do not want, and I would venture to guess the results would look something like this,
<p style="margin:0in 0in .0001pt;">71% of people "don't want Manziel"
<p style="margin:0in 0in .0001pt;">72% of people "don't want Clowney"
<p style="margin:0in 0in .0001pt;">75% of people "don't want Bridgewater"
<p style="margin:0in 0in .0001pt;">95% of people "don't want Bottles"
<p style="margin:0in 0in .0001pt;">99% of people "don't want Watkins"
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<p style="margin:0in 0in .0001pt;">So then, you still didn't answer my previous question. Under those same 3 poll criteria, would any player(other than maybe Clowney) get higher than 30% on these boards? If not, then simple math would tell you than Manziel is in fact the consensus pick.<span> Now lemme be clear, I'm not saying that's true, but you were the one that brought up 'consensus' numbers.</span>
So, admittedly, I shouldn't have included Clowney. I'll see if I can drop that question and add one for the 3 QBs.
EDIT: New poll question added. Enjoy!
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