(12-04-2023, 08:37 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote:

(12-04-2023, 11:20 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: That's a big part of the problem with the election deniers. They don't get how much pppl hate that candidate and how easily they were rallied to vote. 

Yeah - lots of ppl hate Biden too - but they overwhelming intersect with the same 50 mil who will vote for Trump again. The reach of Biden hate doesn't extend as deeply into mobilizing unregistered voter territory. 

It is almost hilarious how many times I've stated in this thread that ppl won't turn out FOR Biden but merely AGAINST Trump and each of you guys keeps trying to put the words in my mouth anyway. 

LOL

Gotta love the catch phrases... "election deniers." Such a supercilious way to start a discussion. 

Anyways, I will take this time to clarify that I agree that a disdain for Trump created a bump in turnout. I assumed that went without saying, but I can see that was not clear in my post from the reread. I should have said that bump was not exclusively driven by Trump hate. Mail-in voting, ballot harvesting, big establishment money, and political activism also played a crucial role, which I believe lead to a fraudulent election and indifference from our power-hungry bureaucrats, both elected and unelected. 

People HATE Joe Biden. Many, many people are saying they won't turn out for the man. Many lifelong democrats. This is with the knowledge that Trump is waiting. 2020 does not equal 2024, but you keep believing the hype. Trump almost certainly won't get re-elected. It will be because of Trump hate, but it's not the masses that make that happen.

You are an election denier. 

You should let that sink in. 

Instead of accepting the result of a fair election that has been investigated and challenged to no avail in multiple courts of law, YOU choose to don a tinfoil hat and invent a fantasy (or adopts some other nut's fantasy) that the election should have had a different outcome.

You are denying that the official result is accurate despite having zero proof and mountains of evidence to the contrary. 

You should accept and embrace the term.  It is what you are.

I stated it quite matter-or-factly. Nothing supercilious about that at all.

You know what IS supercilious? The fact that you think you are somehow above the very accurate label.
Would you prefer "ballot-counting-alternate-math aficionado?"
Or "refuter of provable facts?"
How about "unconscious objector?"

LOL

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