(12-04-2023, 06:58 AM)The Real Marty Wrote:

(12-03-2023, 08:37 PM)copycat Wrote: Sure for the next 11 years you have free choice but after that…


Just stop!  Your inability to draw conclusions is baffling.  You would most likely agree with prima nocta if our current legislation imposed it.

After 2035 you don't have free choice in California or Massachusetts.   So "we're all being forced to buy electric cars" is not true.

(12-04-2023, 01:53 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote:

(12-03-2023, 05:53 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: it is only California and Massachusetts and the deadline is 2035 not 2025.  
So for at least the next 11 years, no one is forced to buy an electric car and even then only people in California and Massachusetts.

So... you are wrong.  No one is being forced to buy an electric car.

Okay dude. Whatever you say. But I'm not wrong in what I said. Those people in those states will be forced to buy an EV. Nowhere did I say everyone.

Here is the truth. No one will be forced to buy an EV but you won't be able to buy and register a non-EV. So technically they can't force you but you can't register, can't fill up at a gas station that doesn't exist, etc.

Just like they didn't force you to get the vaccine, they just made a bunch of mandates saying you couldn't work if you didn't. 'We didn't make you get it, you made the choice to have a job.'


The bigger issue is the mandate doesn't matter much to the consumer. The mandate gives the manufacturer the ability to stop selling ICE cars. Ford has gone crazy and ruined their models with most of the newer models having no other options or them outright not making the model anymore. Ford in Europe has more models and options now but Us is shrinking as they work with the government to force this.

Asian manufacturers are going to win this. They are making hybrids and some EV only options if you really want it. Hybrids just kind of died for some reason. The technology never was implemented on all the base models and was even absent on most models. The logical progression never happened and hybrids solve all the problems people have with EVs.

So why are we skipping from hybrids disappearing for the most part to all EV? This wasn't a natural progression, so you have to look at where the money is coming from.

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