(12-09-2023, 08:06 PM)carp8dm Wrote:

(12-09-2023, 07:39 PM)RicoTx Wrote: What, exactly, does that have to do with him being the 'same player'?

Nothing.  I guess.  Other than Ngakoue and Allen were both amazing players when they wanted to be, but they also didn't show up quite often.  

Sorry, I guess I'm just a very cynical fan.  Josh Allen does great when he does great.  Yannick was the same.  After Yannick got his bag from Chicago, he basically became irrelevant.  I don't mind keeping Allen.  I just don't think he's worth a top 10 Edge Rush contract.  20 million per would be a good contract for him...  That is the going rate...  

While I love Allen, he's not worth a top 5 annual contract.  He's just not.  

I'm not sure if I'm being unclear with what I'm saying...  He's worth keeping.  But he's not worth keeping as a top 5 Edge Rusher.  He's top 10...  There's no need to break the bank.  And if he want to go that route, he'll wind up like Yannick.  With a huge bag but on an under performing team...

I'm not saying anything revolutionary here.

Edit:  Here's the payout range for Edge Rushers...  https://overthecap.com/position/edge-rusher

Assuming that the Cap increases by 5% for next year.  I still don't see why we'd pay Allen 30 million per year.  He's worthy of a 20 Million contract over 4 years, with a signing bonus.  Then we can re-sign Walker so long as he continues to progress.  And we also have room for Aloukun, and Campbell so long as he gets health.  All while also having to consider that money we're about to invest into Lawrence while determining which recievers and Linemen we're gonna invest in...

Pay Josh Allen?  Absolutely.  But I hope we don't over-pay to the point we lose other talent.  Josh Allen, while having a really good year, isn't a game changer to where you give him all the monies.