(12-15-2023, 02:16 PM)Cleatwood Wrote:

(12-15-2023, 02:11 PM)Caldrac Wrote: You're paying for an elite player on a team that has probably anywhere between four to eight elite problems to solve on both sides of the football right now at the minimum. Adams has been pretty damn good the last two years. On a 12 - 19 football club. . .

Last night was his first 100+ yard game since week three and he went seven straight weeks without a TD at one point. That's because he's currently playing on a team with elite problems. Between the coaching staff, some injuries and some lack of talent in some areas.

You can't say it's been the defense as the issue there in Vegas neither. They're middle of the pack with their offense being 29th overall. 

So much for elitism there I guess.

If you think that Adams is part of the reason they're losing, then this conversation is going no where.

It couldn't possibly be because they had a horrible HC and incompetent QB play. No. It's definitely because of Adams who is on pace for about 1,300 yards and 8 TDs with Oconnnell and Jimmy G as his QB.

Try and separate elite players who can't control their QB situation.

Not to mention, if we were to do it your way, they're paying for a non elite player when they have 4-8 elite problems. Brilliant.

I don't think Adams is part of the problem there. As cited above, they have a plethora of issues. Probably starts with ownership. As far as QB play? Look, Scary Terry has no problems producing in Washington, in arguably, a much tougher division and David Moore is making Justin Fields look competent. [BLEEP], before Tyreek Hill arrived in Miami? Tua was on the verge of being Mac'ed Jones.

I am not saying Adams isn't worth the investment. What I am saying, is that, he's not going to be the guy that puts this team over the hill because this team currently can barely muster enough strength with their lineman to push guys downhill and they play like they have to overcome an uphill battle every week. 

We can agree to disagree. But, I'll happily fork over a late 2nd RD pick for a guy coming back in year two for less than $20M Vs. forking over probably a late 1st RD pick and a combination of other picks in addition to inheriting a mammoth contract while knowing we have Josh Allen, Trevor Lawrence and more holes to fill. 

At this point, me and you are just [BLEEP] shoveling snow at each other's driveway and it's hilarious. I like you! Cheers! LOL.

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