(12-27-2023, 09:50 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote:

(12-27-2023, 09:35 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: Yes, this is true. That's why people putting so much emphsis on the OC is frustrating, because if you pigeonhole the reason as that one guy (who's not even really below average) then you come back next year with a new play caller and the same problems. I want this team to win too, just like you. Going back to the summer I was pouding the table to make the lines better, and if we had then we wouldn't be talking about play calling because the plays called would be working. Not being able to run the ball isn't about plays, it's about players. Not being able to pass block isn't about plays, it's about players. Not being able tackle isn't about plays, it's about players. Dropping touchdowns and missing throws isn't about the plays, it's about the players. That's why Doug responds like he does to those questions, because the greatest plans and best play calling on Earth can't help if the players don't or can't make the plays.

I agree that the oline is the biggest problem on offense and I was pounding the table for Dawand Jones and Torrence, could of had both over Stange and Bigsby.  With that said the play calling isn't the best it can be, it can be better and I want the best play caller we can possibly have.  I've also seen plays were the oline actually has a good down and the Trev makes the wrong read or a bad throw, or the WR messes up with a drop or runs the wrong route, or doesn't get his head around, or even a drop.

  If you think Press is a better player caller than Doug, than that's your opinion but i disagree.  The WRs are also part of the problem and the QB also needs to play better.  If the WRs are running the wrong routes week 17, then that also falls on the coaches not having.   them ready this late in the season

The defense is another issue, poor tackling can also fall on the coaches. I bet if Dick LeBeau was coaching this defense you wouldn't see these issues.  They need to start holding players accountable.  If a player continues to mess up bench him for a series or 2.  There are a bunch of reasons why we are playing like the worst team in the league right now.

I don't think Taylor is a better play caller, but I think he's running Doug's offense and it's not significantly different. At least not enough to overcome the player problems. It's a Hierarchy of Needs model IMO. The Head Coach/System is the foundation, then the GM, then the QB, then the rest of the starters, and then the Coordinators, then the other coaches and lastly the backups and practice squad guys. We have critical issues as the GM and starters levels that have to be fixed before the assistants make a significant difference. You don't have to address these linearly, but having a failure at a lower level is more significant than one at the upper levels.

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