(01-07-2024, 05:33 PM)SeldomRite Wrote:

(01-07-2024, 05:24 PM)rpr52121 Wrote: I understand all of that. But there are quarterbacks who face that exact same situation and look way calmer in the pocket than Trevor normally does. Guys who normally win MVP's and as result normally win SB's. 

Also there is no way for me to gauge who made the mistake on each play as you are describing without watching the all 22 and often knowing the play and the real-time adjustments to be made based on reading the coverages. Do you know what those all are, or just assuming that the full explanation is on all the other guys and not on Trevor?

I'm in no way saying Trevor is the complete problem or the biggest issue. However, he is definitely part of the issue. Trevor definitely has not had any help, but just because he has not had any help doesnt mean you give him "the guy" contract. It is too early to tell. 

And like I said, this franchise as constructed requires "the guy" who can overcome a lot of that based on their cap allocations and roster construction.

The "predetermining who to throw at" thing bothered me, because every QB starts the play with a guy they're going to throw to.

Sometimes QBs make mistakes in their read and end up not succeeding, but I'm not sure Trevor has often has the time to go through his reads this year and find the open guy.

Really, it's pretty miraculous the jaguars even got to 8-3. Our offensive line is BAD. I mean real bad, not just the kind of hyperbole fans sometimes spout because the line is average. The line was bad.

The defense has their moments against bad QBs of looking decent, and even played well against good QBs a few times, but the team is mostly looking up at average as far as roster goes, but people expect a quarterback with a Rasputin list of injuries to carry a team.

It didn't happen, if the Jaguars want to hold off on extending him that's their choice, but it probably won't help anything.

If they don't replace Baalke and improve the roster then he can just do what Lamar did and the team can eventually lose him, or they can look to extend the best part of the roster right now and focus on fixing everything else with at least stability at QB.

1. Predetermining was maybe the wrong word. But he I do feel he doesn't come off reads fast enough and sometimes tries to fit things into windows he should not instead of progressing. Some of that may definitely be that he doesn't have time doesn't feel he has time to go through his progressions. That blame also comes on the OC/Coaches for not reseting the plays and routes to make that work better, especially because defenses all year are just sitting on the mesh/horizontal crossing routes and making them hard.

2. I've never been a fan of an injured QB playing. I think having Trevor play the last month was dumb. He hasn't been a guy with great accuracy with multiple arm angles or messing his mechanics. He generally needs them to be on point for him to be his best. But the team screwed that up having Beathard as the back up QB with the high floor/low ceiling instead of someone else. Forced their hand especially given the losing streak and the defense falling apart.

3. If you look at the 21 and 22 QB draft classes, none of those QB's are probably going to get an elite level QB contract in the next 2 off seasons. Fields may be traded and is more unproven than Trevor. Purdy has done well, but no way San Fran pays him an elite level contract until they have to. So essentially the Jags don't have to jump the gun with an extension now. They can pick up the 5th year and wait until after Trevor's 5th year to figure it out. Ideally they would want to decide before Stroud is extended, but they have time.

4. Given Kahn's MO, he always waits too long on firing HC/GM's. I have no hope he will be proactive and restructure the FO. Maybe he reconsiders not hiring a VP of Football Operations, but I don't think there are any obvious candidates for that right now. Rick Spielman was highly regarded, but not sure he is in play anymore.

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