(01-13-2024, 12:36 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote:

(01-13-2024, 12:07 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: He played the 0 and the 3

And he was the highest rated interior pass rusher we had the year before, so they signed him to an extension for 10 mil per year. Then they didn't add anyone else of note to the IDL. They were counting on DH to collapse pockets and they added no one else to do so. 

So it doesn't matter what you mistakenly think they were doing with him or where they lined him up - he was their only real option to disrupt the pocket with RRH a distant second based on 2022 effectiveness of penetration. 

Hamilton has split NT duty with Fatukasi ever since he's been here btw. 

Matabuike is exactly the type of guy I referred to in my post as what they need to add. 

All of the "moving Walker inside" blather is silly. 
Walker is doing great at OLB and they just need a depth OLB behind him so they can kick him inside on maybe 15% of his snaps or so to maximize some 3rd down pressure rate. He isn't changing positions.

You have zero clue what the new DC will do with Walker.  Walker hasnt been great like you say but he has definitely improve a good bot and its nice to see. I think depends on what we do in the draft.  If we draft draft Verse or Turner in the 1st I think they move Walker down in base.  You think if they take one of these edge rushers in the 1st they should have him come off the bench instead of having all 3 on the field at the same time?  

 You have been wrong on this for a while and yes Hamilton played NT and 3 tech. Just because he was our best interior pass rusher last year means nothing lol, it's because we suck in that department.   Most lineman move around on the line.   Last year a interior pass rusher was a huge need even before Hamilton got injured.  Maybe you consider Hamilton a interior pass rusher, but he isnt, hes a NT, he was a 335 pound NT that can push the pocket and get in the QBs face at times.   Even if we brought in a other NT Hamilton isnt the guy i want at 3 tech and relying on him to put pressure on the QB in crucial situations, thats not who he is.  We need more than what he brings to the table even when 100%.  Now Matabuike is exactly what this team needs?  Lolol.  If Hamilton was this interior pass rusher as you say Matabuike wouldn't be such a huge need.

Holy hell, you are missing everything I'm saying. 

I'm saying that the 2023 Jags staff were counting on Hamilton to be the primary guy that disprupts the pocket. 

I'm not saying he's a classic 5 tech Hargrave type. 

The closest thing they had to that was RRH and they likely knew he was no where near being a consistent disruptive force. 
But they did see what Davon Hamilton did in 2022 playing 0 tech, 5 tech and 3 tech at times and they paid him handsomely to keep doing it. 

This 2023 defense missed the penetration Hamilton achieved in 2022 immensely. 

Of course I still want them to sign a 5 tech type to really get after QBs from the inside, I've started multiple threads about it for chrissakes, but it doesn't change the fact that the Jags brass were counting on disruption from DH, it didn't happen, and it hurt the defense.

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