(01-15-2024, 11:34 PM)mikesez Wrote:

(01-15-2024, 11:13 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: It's not a good plan. It's a terrible plan. It's your plan. It's what you've concocted in your head because, without it, none of it makes sense.

No.
None of what *you* said makes sense.
Your posts are a blizzard of lies and non sequiturs.  Let's go point by point.

Quote:They believe the election was stolen.
They wanted the establishment to do something about it, but the establishment did not. The establishment did investigate. In fact, Josh Hawley, who the establishment hates, made two legitimate claims about the vote process on Jan 6.  Had those claims been judged favorably, Biden would have won, just by a smaller margin.  If there were more legitimate claims to be made, Hawley would have made them.  Yes there were questionable shenanigans.  No they did not affect the end result.  Biden won, Trump lost.

They went to protest. They went to break into a building while duty elected officials were performing official duties.

Trump happens to be in agreement with those things. Trump was the one who planted it in many of their minds in the first place.  

People went to the Capitol building, and the peaceful masses were lumped in with the relatively few dissidents, 2000+ is more than a few 

and the government is treating them as equals. Only the people who passed the barricades are being prosecuted. 

They fear the people AS MUCH as they fear Trump, who actually gives the movement a face. That's the most likely scenario. Anybody who wants us to select government officials by elections, and anyone who wants to run for office in those elections, should fear the people who just want to rule regardless of what elections decide.

Hey [BLEEP]... none of it has to be true for it to be the reason why it happened. That's like saying the villagers didn't go out to the field because the boy who cried wolf was lying. That's ridiculous. There is probably some merit to what you say in that if Trump had just rolled over and said the election was on the up and up, as many people wouldn't be irate. That said, he doesn't need to do that. Democrats don't do it, and Trump is a democrat. You're just too naive to realize he's playing the same game, which is why so many Republican people are drawn to him. That doesn't mean he's masterminding an insurrection. By all accounts, what you see is what you get with Trump. Yet, here you are, concocting some elaborate tale that isn't even able to be fact checked because it's all about what you THINK Trump was doing, despite the fact it's nonsensical. 

I am telling you what people did based on what people said. So, if they believe the election was stolen, it doesn't matter what Josh Hawley said. It's WHY THEY WENT THERE. It's why they said they were there. People were already at the Capitol building WHILE TRUMP WAS STILL SPEAKING. People did not leave his rally to "break into a building." Most of the people who went in were LET IN. There were a few hundred protestors who were violent, and even among them, 4 were convicted of seditious conspiracy (one who wasn't even present at the time). That's it. Of all the arrests, 4 were convicted of wanting to overthrow the government. 83 were convicted of assault. So, no... it wasn't hundreds and thousands of these people. It was a small minority. MOST people were convicted of being present that day.

https://www.newsweek.com/full-list-capit...-6-1826075

Scroll through those and educate yourself. You should shake your head at how many people served jail time for "demonstrating at the Capitol." You won't, because it's hard to shake your head while it's up your [BLEEP].

You keep telling yourself these fairy tales, bro.

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