(01-16-2024, 11:09 AM)snarkyguy_he_him_his Wrote: (01-16-2024, 10:08 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: His EPA rating with the horrible OL puts him 13th in the league.
His EPA rating when factoring the snaps of horrible OL play puts him at 3rd in the league.
There are valid reasons why most of the NFL universe view him as a franchise QB with a few issues to sort out - hampered by a bad line.
Are you calling half a dozen former NFL QBs with big broadcasting jobs and another half dozen former NFL HC's in similar positions "his wife?"
It is telling that 99% of the biggest Lawrence detractors all have no recommendation beyond keeping him when pressed on what they'll do about "how bad he is."
The kid makes some dumb decisions at times that he needs to grow out of and fast. That's fair.
But they pale in comparison to the other factors holding him back. They all appear fixable to me. He also played through 4 significant injuries this sesason behind a ridiculously bad line. If that last sentence is just excuses to you, you should reevaluate your definition of excuses vs reasons.
On topic -
Despite already giving the long winded version on the thread topic - I think a brief overview is good perspective here:
OFFENSE:
Fix the OL and have a top ten offense - EASILY
Abandoning the limitation of OL selections to those with ZBS traits will need to be part of the equation
DEFENSE:
This one is more tricky with a new DC and staff incoming, but :
Add a interior pass rusher and a third edge to rotate + a quality nickel and solid competition at SS
Should be a solid-mid-tier or better defense with those adds - good enough to slug it out with the tinhorns for the division
The defensive stance people take when others dare tell them that Lawrence isn't the chosen one is just staggering to me.
He has issues. He's young, but he's played 3 years of college ball and now 3 years of NFL ball. He hasn't corrected his issues.
I've said it before give him a top 10 line he will have a fantastic season.
But a generational QB would still be successful. He's just normal. Which is fine.
But stop thinking he will ever be Mahomes or Brady.. or even Aikman or Young.
EDIT: the 49ers have like the 20th ranked offensive line and they are going to the superbowl. Is Brock Purdy that much better? That's sad for Trevor
Nah
You're just pinning [BLEEP] on TL that is affected by line play and other variables;es and weakly trying to say other successful QBs still perform despite similar issues.
Trevor performed despite his issues enough to warrant the efficiency ratings I've laid out that you are completely ignoring with your unfounded conjecture.
The SF line through the first 10 weeks this year had a win rate (pass and rush combined) of 61.4% - Jags were 55% and during that stretch we won 8 games!! What do you think happened to those numbers in the weeks to follow??
Enlighten us.
The PFF overall line score at that time (1o weeks) for SF was +.81 (only 16 teams were in the + side)
The Jags score at that time was negative - 4.78 over 5 whole points lower on a scale that runs from -9 to +7 league wide!
Your argument about SF's line is complete and utter hogwash.
SF's center finished with a 63.9 grade - ours with a 44.3
SF rushing totaled 2389 yards
Jags totaled 1646 yards
What are you even trying to compare??
Trevor doesn't need a top ten line. He needs a functional line.
Bring this one from ~30th up to 18th and he'll produce enough to put your straw-grasping gripes to bed.
And for the love of all things holy, stop talking about his college tape. Gimme a [BLEEP] break. No one cares.
