(01-24-2024, 12:16 PM)NYC4jags Wrote:

(01-24-2024, 12:04 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: And like I said, while you can blame the O line on him running away, you cannot blame them for him dropping the ball for no reason under no contact. 

This is why we can still say ETN is a good RB despite having bad YPC numbers this season, while also saying Tank Bigsby was a dissapointment. ETN may not have been an effecient runner this season due to the O line, but he also wasn't fumbling/dropping passes consistently like Bigsby. 

Self inflicted mistakes are the issue, not that he wasn't overly effecient behind a poor line.

This is another good opportunity for context in my opinion. 

Tank's turnovers had their own external factors. And your favorite antagonist played a role in at least one of them.
Trevor waited too long to check to him on one of those AND then delivered a 90MPH laser to a rookie RB. Put the kid in a tough position to salvage the snap and it became a tipped INT. 

This is actually somewhat on Trevor IMO. I love that he wants to make the big play - but he's got to learn when to play it safe and learn how to come off the hero ball route quicker to meet his check downs before their break/route has expired and gets blown up. 

I say all that to come back to the point - I'm taking that Bigsby mistake with a healthy grain of salt because he was put in a very less than ideal situation - the same way I see Trevor's unplanned scrambles that he eventually fumbled.

Nah I agree with you on that one tipped pick, it wasn't the best pass. But there are again, far more examples of him making silly mistakes rather than just that one play. Whether is be fumbles, not grabbing a live ball that led to a turnover etc etc. 

Point being was that, ETN rarely makes mistakes and even tho he had a down year in YPC we all still recognize he's a good player.

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(01-24-2024, 01:04 PM)Mikey Wrote:

(01-24-2024, 12:04 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: And like I said, while you can blame the O line on him running away, you cannot blame them for him dropping the ball for no reason under no contact. 

This is why we can still say ETN is a good RB despite having bad YPC numbers this season, while also saying Tank Bigsby was a dissapointment. ETN may not have been an effecient runner this season due to the O line, but he also wasn't fumbling/dropping passes consistently like Bigsby. 

Self inflicted mistakes are the issue, not that he wasn't overly effecient behind a poor line.

1 play = all the plays.

by this logic, we should expect 60-yard TD bombs to Ridley every time, too. He did it that one time, so it has to happen every time.

It was an example, he had plenty of poor plays/fumbles/ints that were 100% on him. He had a few that were on the WRs/O line but you cannot place blame for every mistake he made, on someone else. That's ignorant.

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(01-24-2024, 01:04 PM)Mikey Wrote:

(01-24-2024, 12:04 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: And like I said, while you can blame the O line on him running away, you cannot blame them for him dropping the ball for no reason under no contact. 

This is why we can still say ETN is a good RB despite having bad YPC numbers this season, while also saying Tank Bigsby was a dissapointment. ETN may not have been an effecient runner this season due to the O line, but he also wasn't fumbling/dropping passes consistently like Bigsby. 

Self inflicted mistakes are the issue, not that he wasn't overly effecient behind a poor line.

1 play = all the plays.

by this logic, we should expect 60-yard TD bombs to Ridley every time, too. He did it that one time, so it has to happen every time.

It was an example, he had plenty of poor plays/fumbles/ints that were 100% on him. He had a few that were on the WRs/O line but you cannot place blame for every mistake he made, on someone else. That's ignorant.

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