(01-24-2024, 01:13 PM)mikesez Wrote:

(01-24-2024, 12:49 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote: How you came to this conclusion from what I said is beyond me. 

I'm speaking in general terms not how I personally feel. Is it not a fact that actions have consequences regardless of the subject matter? Facts and feelings rarely work together in agreement. Speaking facts doesn't mean I agree with it.

Personally I find the innocent people in both countries to be in horrific situations. Women and children don't have a choice in these societies, especially in Afghanistan. We can thank the Palestinian men who chose this for their country. Sadly, the male children born into both regimes have likely been taught this is normal so they don't know any better and the cycle continues. 

There is nothing right or good about either situation but to say actions/choices didn't lead to consequences (their current situation) is to not see or acknowledge the reality of it all, regardless of how it makes us feel.

Women participated in the last Palestinian election, where Hamas won.  Women often vote for things that seem anti-female to an outsider.  

And not just over there.

Today's NPR morning edition had a pollster from the Bulwark saying that a significant portion of female voters in the NH Republican primary agreed with the statement "the President should not be a woman".

Women voting against their own interests is nothing new. Palestinian women voting because their husband/father/brother told them who to vote for wouldn't be surprising. Women voting in Afghanistan is a non-starter. 

To be honest, as a woman I don't believe this country is ready for a female POTUS. Certainly none who have tried. Even female VP candidates have been weak. It would take someone with the mind and conscience of the late Queen Elizabeth to convince me she was capable. We all know QE wasn't the government of the UK but no one questioned her dedication to the country. If the monarchy was still governing the country I don't know that she would have been any different.

I question the motivation of every American politician. Every. Single. One. I fail to think of one American politician, man or woman, who would put America first and who couldn't be bought. 

This is getting off the subject though. It can be continued in the regular political thread.

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