(02-01-2024, 08:34 AM)SuperJville Wrote:

(02-01-2024, 08:27 AM)imtheblkranger Wrote: Trevor literally had 16 TDs dropped and then was injured for the last 6 games. Allen was healthy behind a good OL.

Look at it however you want, but what I see is a guy just as good as those top guys who took a beating due to mismanagement of his OL and tried to play through injuries that clearly affected his ability. I have zero doubts on Trevor. Does he have things to clean up? Sure. They all do.

How many TDs did Allen have dropped? Oh that’s right - you don’t know. Apparently Trevor is the only person that has dropped touchdowns. Also, plenty of those “dropped touchdowns” were high and basically out of bounds. You counting all those as “dropped” touchdowns shows me that you’re not looking at any of this objectively.

High/Away where WRs still could have gotten their feet in bounds and have gotten their feet in bounds for us before.

You're right, I don't know how many TDs Allen had dropped that year

When I look at my QB, I look at Adjusted EPA, TD%, INT%, Comp %

Year 2 They both had the same TD%, Trevor with a better INT%, and Trevor Comp %
Year 3 Allen had slightly better Comp, Allen had a 1.7 INT% Trever had 2.5%, Allen had a ridiculous 6.5 TD%, Trevor had 3.7%

Prior to his ankle injury and during his knee injury, Trevor's INT% was 1.7. Right in line with Allen. His TD % was lower. His comp was 68% to Allen's 69%. And IMO, the 3 game stretch leading up to his ankle after the SF loss (After the knee brace came off) 70% comp, 5.2% TD, 0.86 INT%, 1 fumble is MUCH closer to who the real Trevor is when he's healthy.

I don't have the EPA numbers for either off hand.

Year three Allen was also the peak of his career at this point.

I never once said Trevor was better than Allen either. I said they have had similar career arcs and a lot of similar stats. Years 1 and 2 were very similar with Trevor having a better 2nd year. Year 3 the wheels fell off. We'll never know what this year could have been for Trevor it wasn't derailed by injuries or if he had the 10th best Pass blocking OL and NFL leading WR like Josh did year 3. We were hoping Ridley would be that but he wasn't. Could Allen have done better on this team in year 3? Maybe.

My point was I've seen enough of him to show me he's the guy and he's right up there with the top guys in terms of his ability but he's been dealt a bad hand with his supporting cast, mainly OL. I think our skill positions are good. If you fix this OL Trevor takes off. Period. 

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