(02-06-2024, 11:27 AM)Caldrac Wrote:

(02-06-2024, 10:59 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: Or - Baalke simply knows this agent and this agent knows Baalke. (and they do have plenty of familiarity - Joel Segal is one of the most influential sports agents on the scene and has been for many years) 

And it is very easy to imagine that both sides already had an understanding that Allen's camp would be letting the free agent edge market play out before getting to a number so they could use every tactic available to push the numbers up. (Burns and Hunter deals are imminent) 

Regarding priorities - Baalke was crystal clear about the priority. He must have said 6 times that Allen would be a Jag in 2024. It's not about deciding if they want him - it's about having dialogue concerning exactly how "mega" the mega-deal is going to be. That number will depend on all of that other evaluation I mentioned  - plans for other free agents yet to be determined - a Lawrence deal if it is happening this year - and a determination of cap space to carry into 2025. 

Personally - I wouldn't begin a negotiation if I didn't know my own end game yet. I can see why they needed to figure some [BLEEP] out first. 

Feel free to go see exactly behind the curve our front office is right now by perusing the long list of mega-deals getting done around the league over the past 2 weeks:

https://www.espn.com/nfl/transactions

(hint: it's all coaching hires and futures deals for PS players with a couple of waives mixed in)

Maybe I'm giving Baalke too much rope - but for the life of me I don't see anything weird about this process. I think a couple of tweets got blown way out of proportion and a fanbase already marching down Main Street with tar, feathers, and pitchforks for the GM just ran with it.

Relax. I just like ruffling your feathers on this topic. You're very rational. It's the off season and I am just impatient is all. I am confident a deal gets done one way or another. There's more than one way to skin a cat (Jaguar in this case). I may not like Baalke's approach or method but he'll get it done. 

Money always talks in these situations and a lot of it probably boils down to two things as it always does:

1. How much up front?
2. How long for?

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(02-06-2024, 11:10 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: For those that are playing along at home:

Rashan Gary: 4 years, $96 million with $34.6 guaranteed

Montez Sweat: 4 years, $98 million with $62.8 guaranteed.

So any of you who think that Allen is signing for around $25 million per year...I seriously doubt it.

Due to his age. I would honestly like to see a longer deal worked out to stretch out the per year hit if possible. I cited my numbers earlier in this thread and another one I think. Laid out the logic behind it based upon some of his contemporaries at the outside backer position. 

6 year deal, in the $130 - $135M range would be nice. Give him a good guarantee on the deal. Front load it. Give us an easy out entering years 4 - 6 of the deal, etc. 

This is where I think Baalke shines for me personally. As much [BLEEP] as I like to throw at him with his approaches in the draft, he does in fact, make some pretty good contracts and deals on paper and he does have a knack for finding good defensive players throughout his draft classes in various rounds.

Those two I listed got $24 and $24.5 per year respectively; there's no way Josh Allen gets less than that a year later. That's the whole reason I keep pointing out that Bosa's deal isn't some crazy number that no one else is going to get; Allen is better than guys who are already making more than what some on here are suggesting he doesn't deserve.

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