(02-21-2024, 10:16 AM)Caldrac Wrote:

(02-21-2024, 09:16 AM)Mikey Wrote: The more and more I play with mocks the more I get to thinking if you think JPJ is the next can't miss center, you take him there, even if you think it's a few picks early.

Mitchell would have to be transcendent for me to pass on glaring need and best at position. My uninformed opinion would be that we have decent corners under contract already, and there's a good chance I can find a good corner in next year's class.

Agreed. Not a snow ball's chance in hell that Baalke and Pederson pass up on the opportunity of drafting Brock Bowers if he falls that far in this scenario. It enables them to do a wide variety of different things offensively. 

I also cannot fathom them passing up on JPJ for a CB. I think our secondary, while not great, it has potential to be above average provided they catch onto the new defensive system and designs. 

Campbell had to battle a hamstring injury off and on last year. Williams was pretty good earlier on and the man-to-man coverage argument with him goes away when you factor in what he has done historically. Especially with the Rams opposite of Jalen. 

I still think Buster Brown is a good player to keep developing. I think Antonio Johnson, Andre Cisco and Andrew Wingard offer PLENTY on the backend and Johnson can come up and play in the nickel and blitz off the edge if needed. I just don't think CB is something that should be overly high on our radar. 

Not with all of the needs we have on offense and not in this scenario. No way you pass up on Bowers or JPJ. It's insane to consider in my opinion. Also, when your team decides to fire it's 2nd year play caller on defense? That tends to make me think that they saw coaching as an issue more so than the actual players out there. 

It was obvious we had two glaring areas of weakness on this team last year. It was within the interior on both sides of the football. I would be even more pissed that they passed up on Newton at DT out of Illinois for a CB. We missed out on upgrading our interior on defense last year because we had a hole at RT to backfill but Kancey ended up with Tampa Bay. Newton has similar traits to Kancey in my opinion.

You absolutely take Bowers if he's there, that would be an easy pick.  We would have the best TE combo in the league, he won't be there though.  Newton is a little bigger and a much better run defender than Kancey is.  Newton is one of the best run defenders in college as well. 

 If we don't get a center in FA, there will be a lot of speculation on if we will draft one or if Doug and Ballke really like Fortner there like both have said numerous times.  I hope they aren't sold on Fortner at center.  It wouldnt shock me if they really like Frazier as well being he is a 4x state wrestling champ, likely very athletic, and has a 1 1/4 longer arms than JPJ, and are looking at him in the 2nd if they want DeJean or Mitchell.  Will be interesting to see how these centers and guards test at the combine because Baalke will be looking more at that than the game tape.  The shorter arms for JPJ might be the deal breaker like it was for Hutchinson, Hutchinson arms was 1" to short

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