(02-26-2024, 12:16 AM)americus 2.0 Wrote:

(02-25-2024, 02:10 PM)mikesez Wrote: You're implying that the new illegal immigrants get welfare, but other than seats in public schools and emergency medical care, they do not.

This is not entirely accurate. From this website:


New York also has a similar regulation under its rules that govern eligibility for the receipt of Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF). Lawful residence in the United States, if the recipient is an alien, is among seven factors that affect eligibility.

A fair interpretation of the federal statute and state regulation must result in the conclusion that illegal aliens should not receive any form of state public assistance. However, illegal aliens do, in fact, receive state public benefits. That's because the burden of determining lawful status in the U.S. is on the shoulders of county social services employees who have neither the legal jurisdiction nor the practical ability to determine one's immigration status. Only an immigration official or federal worker whom the Secretary of Homeland Security has authorized may determine the immigration status of a person in the country.

Typically, any proof an illegal alien provides as evidence of legal status, regardless of its fraudulent nature, will satisfy social services agencies that determine the person's benefit eligibility because an intake clerk simply cannot make the determination that someone is an illegal alien. Therefore, the law is usually overlooked and illegal aliens manage to qualify for state and local benefits.

If it's true in NY you can be sure it is in other states. 

As for the part I bolded I can guarantee you Americans and non-Americans alike fake paperwork or play the system in order to get government assistance. In another life I was on government assistance and was shocked at how many women were getting benefits that they really shouldn't have but they knew how to game the system. 

If you think there isn't a black market in place where folks pay to get fake IDs and paperwork so they can get benefits, think again.

I think we're going down a rabbit hole here.  Yes, many people commit fraud.  All sorts of fraud.  But most people do not commit fraud.  

Welfare fraud is illegal.  Murder is illegal.  But the fact that illegal immigrants sometimes commit welfare fraud, and sometimes commit murder, is neither here nor there in a discussion of illegal immigration, because we know that legal immigrants and citizens also do these things.

Venezuelans like the UGA murder suspect are usually under temporary protected status.  Trump gave them that status.

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