(02-25-2024, 12:47 AM)Lucky2Last Wrote: You speak out of both sides of your mouth, bro. You say you advocate for vaccinations because all age demographics have positive benefits from the vaccine. When I ask you for the data, you can't provide it (but you pretend like you won't). It's [BLEEP] weak sauce, man. If you can't provide the data necessary, then you should just give your opinion and admit it's your belief. It's that simple.

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I have no problems admitting I'm insatiable. Ask my wife.

However, if you give me the data I'm asking for... the age-specific data necessary to support your claim, I'll shut up and you won't hear from me again. I have a very specific gripe with you. You're a healthcare leader, and your making claims that are unsupported. This is really easy to make go away.

Here you go, here's one from 2021 that examines the CFR and strain on burden. I know you're just champing at the bit to tear it apart, so I'll just leave it with you. It does not examine the age brackets up to age 30 because of a lack of data in Japan; as a pretty health country already, they had a lesser overall problem with the pandemic.

"Unconditional protection from death was also estimated to be extremely high (>97%) for persons in all age groups." 

Ko YK, Murayama H, Yamasaki L, Kinoshita R, Suzuki M, Nishiura H. Age-Dependent Effects of COVID-19 Vaccine and of Healthcare Burden on COVID-19 Deaths, Tokyo, Japan. Emerg Infect Dis. 2022 Sep;28(9):1777-1784. doi: 10.3201/eid2809.220377. Epub 2022 Jul 12. PMID: 35820166; PMCID: PMC9423928.

There was also a pediatric study recently completed in the Scandie countries that showed +72% efficacy at 6 months. I know you'll want to send Dr. Poukka an e-mail to explain how his team is wrong, so there's an e-mail for correspondence at the link.

"Among adolescents aged 12 to 17 years, BNT162b2, mRNA-1273, and heterologous vaccine schedules provided high protection against COVID-19 hospitalization, with vaccine effectiveness ranging between 72.6% and 86.0% at 6 months of follow-up, including COVID-19–related hospitalizations caused by omicron."

https://publications.aap.org/pediatrics/...redirected

Anyway, I know this isn't the data you demand, but the fact is that the scholarship on this is getting stronger with each new longer term examination of the outcomes. Now you can get back to saying how wrong I am about everything I say on the topic.

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