(03-05-2024, 05:15 PM)mikesez Wrote:

(03-05-2024, 04:41 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: It was literally a headline on every news outlet. You've gotta be kidding me. 

There is no point leading the horse to water when the horse is a conspiracy theorist that is just gonna tell me the water was put there by Antifa and its not actually water. 

As always - we're back to the "alternate facts" portion of the pointless debate.

L2L has already said that ANY big bill on ANY big topic should not be approved at this time because it would help Biden's election chances.  L2L puts every belief he has about policy as subsidiary to his belief about personality, specifically, that Biden should lose the election.  Because of secret marxists, of course, not anything actually written down.

So even if you did pin him down with quotes from real legislators and real legislation, he wouldn't care.

At least he admits it.  Many on this board are beyond convincing but pretend they aren't.

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(03-05-2024, 04:48 PM)jagibelieve Wrote: Which "every major news outlets" were supposedly "reporting" that Republicans were backing the bill?  Do they have Republicans on camera saying that they supported the bill (or not)?  When was that "reported"?

The bill was dead long before President Trump said anything publicly.

The bill was never about border security and everything about sending more money overseas to Ukraine and a lesser extent Israel.

Be that as it may, we should continue to aid both Ukraine and Israel and Taiwan.  Ukraine is the most desperate at the moment.

Politicking is about how one positions for power. Governance it what one does with power. You correctly noticing republican politicking, while simultaneously confusing democrats politicking for governance. If you were capable of critical thought (like you seem to think you are) you would be able to "watch the ball, "as you are so fond of saying. 

Democrats are destroying our country with bad governance. Period. You don't give them a political win so they can stay in power and keep ruining the country. I wish politics were not necessary, but too many people, including yourself, are not capable of discerning lie from truth because the lies get "widely reported." So, yeah... I'm not focused on the politics. It's the same reason I think establishment Republicans need to go, too. 

Btw, none of this has to do with personality, so it's ridiculous you tried to even frame it that way, in addition to creating a strawman about conspiracies. Stick to the main argument instead of misrepresenting my position for internet clout or whatever it is you're getting from this board.

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(03-05-2024, 04:41 PM)NYC4jags Wrote:

(03-05-2024, 03:48 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: Mitch McConnell blames Mike Johnson for his reversal. Why don't you post this widely reported honest journalism you keep talking about.

It was literally a headline on every news outlet. You've gotta be kidding me. 

There is no point leading the horse to water when the horse is a conspiracy theorist that is just gonna tell me the water was put there by Antifa and its not actually water. 

As always - we're back to the "alternate facts" portion of the pointless debate.

Shouldn't be hard to find, then. Give me some examples. When I look it up, even using mainstream sources, I see lots of info about mine Johnson, but maybe my sources aren't far left enough.

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