(03-05-2024, 08:21 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote:

(03-05-2024, 05:15 PM)mikesez Wrote: L2L has already said that ANY big bill on ANY big topic should not be approved at this time because it would help Biden's election chances.  L2L puts every belief he has about policy as subsidiary to his belief about personality, specifically, that Biden should lose the election.  Because of secret marxists, of course, not anything actually written down.

So even if you did pin him down with quotes from real legislators and real legislation, he wouldn't care.

At least he admits it.  Many on this board are beyond convincing but pretend they aren't.

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Be that as it may, we should continue to aid both Ukraine and Israel and Taiwan.  Ukraine is the most desperate at the moment.

Politicking is about how one positions for power. Governance it what one does with power. You correctly noticing republican politicking, while simultaneously confusing democrats politicking for governance. If you were capable of critical thought (like you seem to think you are) you would be able to "watch the ball, "as you are so fond of saying. 

Democrats are destroying our country with bad governance. Period. You don't give them a political win so they can stay in power and keep ruining the country. I wish politics were not necessary, but too many people, including yourself, are not capable of discerning lie from truth because the lies get "widely reported." So, yeah... I'm not focused on the politics. It's the same reason I think establishment Republicans need to go, too. 

Btw, none of this has to do with personality, so it's ridiculous you tried to even frame it that way, in addition to creating a strawman about conspiracies. Stick to the main argument instead of misrepresenting my position for internet clout or whatever it is you're getting from this board.

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(03-05-2024, 04:41 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: It was literally a headline on every news outlet. You've gotta be kidding me. 

There is no point leading the horse to water when the horse is a conspiracy theorist that is just gonna tell me the water was put there by Antifa and its not actually water. 

As always - we're back to the "alternate facts" portion of the pointless debate.

Shouldn't be hard to find, then. Give me some examples. When I look it up, even using mainstream sources, I see lots of info about mine Johnson, but maybe my sources aren't far left enough.

Spare me.

In order to govern, in order to change a policy, you have to politick and get the votes in Congress.  And in order to gain the seats, and the Presidency, you have to politick with the voters.  You know that, I know that. I'm not criticizing the politicking.  

I'm saying that the table was cleared to stop politicking and start governing, and too many people would rather keep politicking. 

That is not how the system was designed to work.  It's not supposed to be all politicking all the time.  They have to spend more of their time governing.

And stop getting my points confused with NYC's points.

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