(03-22-2024, 07:53 AM)Sneakers Wrote:

(03-22-2024, 07:34 AM)mikesez Wrote: Nonsense.
I don't know if I'd ever be brave enough to speak against Putin but that's besides the point.
I think Trump should say whatever he wants.  I think you should say whatever you want.  I think I should say whatever I want.  But if any of us, through words, ever incites violence, that person should be punished.  And if any of us, having taken an oath to uphold the Constitution, calls for the end of the Constitution, that person should be punished.

No, that's EXACTLY the point.

For the 327th time, present your evidence.  Note I said EVIDENCE, not opinion or conjecture.  Show me the transcript of Trump calling for an end to the Constitution. Show me where he told people to get violent or break the law in any way. 

You desperately want it to be true, but the evidence just isn't there.

Paraphrasing-

"Be there, it will be wild"
"Mike, you need to stop the proceeding, grab the envelopes, and leave.  Think of it like a football play, you and the others will just leave and they won't be able to continue"
"We don't need mags, just let the people come to me"
"We're going to go to the Capitol"
"We're going to fight like hell, otherwise, we won't have a country anymore"
"Mike Pence won't do what needs to be done.  He is a coward"
[When he knows people who didn't go through metal detectors are loose in the building] "Stay peaceful!"

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