(03-22-2024, 11:17 PM)Caldrac Wrote:

(03-22-2024, 09:36 PM)mikesez Wrote: The FSU chant tells us the crowd wants FSU to win. 
Not all the protestors did all the same things.  But they had a unifying goal.  What was it?

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We will get to that.

What were they trying to do?

They were trying to start a Kumite. Look, that insurrection was about as exciting as the toys you can find at an inserection.

What happened that day was long, long overdue. We're not perfect. It turns out, America is like every other country that's divided and grown tired of politicians [BLEEP] us over without taking us out to dinner first anymore.

Here's a link for reference:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_...by_country

It should have been a step in the right direction though. Towards a unified front. Maybe after Joey Bag o' [BLEEP] donuts is out of the picture and the lefties can admit they got it wrong supporting him we can all heal finally.

Say what you want. Things were better under Trump's administration. Globally and domestically. He did get in bed with the fed. And he did warp speed us into clot shots.

But, my bank account was healthier, [BLEEP] was more affordable and global tensions were nowhere near as bad as they are right now.

The way some of you lefties act like with January 6th? You'd think it was Hitler burning the [BLEEP] Reichstag down, 9/11 or the Boston Bombing.

Was it good? No.
Was it bad? No.
Was it neccesary? Yes.

The overall corruption that's been oozing out of our Congress and Government is enough to make Somalia blush in envy.

Now, please, do us all a favor and get off your high horse there, Verney.

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By kumite you mean hand to hand fighting.  OK. For sport? No.  You admit it was an insurrection but lament that it wasn't more entertaining.  OK. 

Then you say, we should have more physical violence here, to wipe out corruption.  OK.

I wasn't expecting you to say that.  First of all, one or both sides are always going to have guns.  Bodies will pile up quickly.  There won't be much in the way of chivalrous fighting.  

I think you misunderstand the point of democracy.  The point is not to find the best possible policy.  It's to avoid physical fighting over policy.  Hash it out at the ballot box.  I prove there that my side has more people, hopefully you no longer want to fight me over it because you see that I can bring more people to the fight than you can.  It is not to avoid corruption.  It is to minimize corruption by making it easier to remove any leader who loses touch with his original supporters.  But corruption can't be eliminated this way.

Anyhow

That's your first error.  Your second error is more serious than the first.  Your second error is, as soon as you cry and let slip the dogs of war, you have no idea how many people will die, how long the violence will last, who will end up on top, and if that person will actually be more or less corrupt than who came before.

Back to the point of the thread.  We've answered two questions, here are two more:

1) were there violent protestors at the Capitol on January 6 2021? Yes.

2) what was their goal? Their immediate goal was to find and arrest Mike Pence.  Which is why they chanted  "Where's Mike Pence?" Their broader goal was to help Trump remain in office, to prevent Biden from gaining office.

3) who gave them the idea to gather that day and try to break in and capture people?

4) many people, police officers, told them to stop.  They did not listen.  Then finally someone told them to stop that they did listen to.  Who was that?

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